Alrighty then, let's welcome this UBER-Conservative Nazi Pope in, shall we? I mean, who wouldn't want someone in who says these types of things:

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It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent malice in speech or in action. Such treatment deserves condemnation from the church’s pastors wherever it occurs. It reveals a kind of disregard for others which endangers the most fundamental principles of a healthy society. The intrinsic dignity of each person must always be respected in word, in action and in law.

So far so good, right?

Uhh, U-TURN!!!:

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‘But the proper reaction to crimes committed against homosexual persons should not be to claim that the homosexual condition is not disordered. When such a claim is made and when homosexual activity is consequently condoned, or when civil legislation is introduced to protect behavior to which no one has any conceivable right, neither the church nor society at large should be surprised when other distorted notions and practices gain ground, and irrational and violent reactions increase (No. 10).

Woohoo! It's not like we already have GOP Senators and Congressmen who condone violence against judges or anything! Thank God Almighty we now have a Pope doing the same against homosexuals! Yippie!

Oooh, forgot this nugget too:

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8. "What is at all costs to be avoided is the unfounded and demeaning assumption that the sexual behavior of homosexual persons is always and totally compulsive and therefore inculpable. What is essential is that the fundamental liberty which characterizes the human person and gives him his dignity be recognized as belonging to the homosexual person as well’ (No. 11).

Hail to the Pope!

http://users.starpower.net/rrosenda...inger0113.shtml

http://americablog.blogspot.com/ ‘I...and%20in%20law.

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Did you really expect a Catholic, let alone the Pope to come out in support of homosexuality? Much ado about nothing, Opus. Don't act so shocked.

yeah Opus, and can we drop the out-of-context Nazi referrences...please.

I think he's still blowing steam out of his ears from some recent newbie posts.

oh yeah, the "Shibbster"!
if i were Opus i'd be a little agitated too.
if i were Opus i'd also be living in Kansas.

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Originally posted by Q5echo oh yeah, the "Shibbster"! if i were Opus i'd be a little agitated too. if i were Opus i'd also be living in Kansas.

If I were Opus, I'd be a few years older and less handsome. Aw snap!

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Originally posted by Q5echo yeah Opus, and can we drop the out-of-context Nazi referrences...please.

Well I do think his history is a bit revealing and relevant, but okay, I'll drop it for now.

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Originally posted by Q5echo Did you really expect a Catholic, let alone the Pope to come out in support of homosexuality? Much ado about nothing, Opus. Don't act so shocked.

It's not his stance against homosexuality that I am against. Granted, that's certainly a given. However, what he says the following with my own emphasis:

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But the proper reaction to crimes committed against homosexual persons should not be to claim that the homosexual condition is not disordered. When such a claim is made and when homosexual activity is consequently condoned, or when civil legislation is introduced to protect behavior to which no one has any conceivable right, neither the church nor society at large should be surprised when other distorted notions and practices gain ground, and irrational and violent reactions increase (No. 10).

To me that's unacceptable to say that violent behavior against homosexuals is to be expected, and directly contradicts his previous paragraph that I cited.

What's more, I don't have it on me directly but there are polls out there that demonstrate an increasing majority of Catholics are becoming more (gasp!) liberal - and the views on homosexuality is one particular case in which more Catholics believe the church should accept them. To hire a very ultra-conservative Pope goes directly against this mainstream majority view.


And yes, Kansas makes me very bitter!!!

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Originally posted by Shakka If I were Opus, I'd be a few years older and less handsome. Aw snap!

I'd reply with something witty if it probably wasn't so damn true.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 To hire a very ultra-conservative Pope goes directly against this mainstream majority view.

Sadly, such an appointment (can a person be both very and ultra at the same time?) would probably happen more than 5 times out of 10 before they'd put a black pope in office.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 I'd reply with something witty if it probably wasn't so damn true.

It matters not, we're both married. I stopped caring about my looks a long time ago!

Heres a good one.....The Cardinal Ratzinger Fan Club.....

The fan club merchandise is quite good....i like the Papist trucker hats and the T-shirts....i like this one..."putting the smackdown on heresy since 1981".....brilliant stuff......

http://www.ratzingerfanclub.com/

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