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Originally posted by rafale so the audiophile firewire version is good coz its portable. yeah similar to the audiophile PCI version i reckon. anyway I was just browsing through m-audio's site and saw that they maintain a difference between AUDIO interface and MIDI interface keyboards. WHAT'S the DIFF?!?! They've listed the Ozone and Ozonic under Audio interface and all the rest like Evolution under the MIDI interface. need some explanation here =)

Don't get audiophile!!!
That's a consumer card. Get an audio interface card with inputs/outputs such as this http://www.zzounds.com/item--MDOD1010LT
http://www.zzounds.com/item--EMU1212M

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Originally posted by TheAddict That's a consumer card.

Know of any non-consumer cards for laptops?

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Don't want to offend EMU owners but don't get an emu card. I have seen many of them fail (used to be service engineer) and one even melt an nearly catch fire. Also the DSP/mixer software bundled with it causes much hassle and is not worth installing. The M audio audiofile Firewire will certainly be good enough quality for the type of applications you want to use it for and at that price you can't go wrong. It's also piss easy to install (done this 200+ times) and the drivers are stable and reliable. Don't get a medium price range audio interface, either spend less and get good value and decent quality (auiophile FW) or save up and spend more and go for something like a motu 828 (which rock!). Don't forget though, the audio interface you buy will depend on how many ins and outs you need as well other factors like : do you need mic pre amps?, digital out (spdif/optical, etc)?, bus powered or psu?, PCMCIA, USB (1 or 2), firewire, etc,etc.
rafale, the difference is that the midi interface keyboards have a built in midi interface (only) and the audio interface keyboard have a built in audio interface(soundcard)as well. These are usually via USB or firewire.

one last point - full duplex means that the drivers/harware allow recording and playback simultaneously

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one last point - full duplex means that the drivers/harware allow recording and playback simultaneously

WOW! Very important detail there. I (very naive) thought all cards could do that. I do plan on playback/recording simultaneously.
Thanks for pointing that out RANN.


Does anybody know of an external card that uses USB 2. My ports are USB 2 so why not take advantage. Just can't find any

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I think some of the M-Audio Soundcards use USB 2? Isn't it?

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Originally posted by don_q ^^ Know of any non-consumer cards for laptops?

I've recently heard of couple of them but I have to research so I'll get back at you.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN ... rafale, the difference is that the midi interface keyboards have a built in midi interface (only) and the audio interface keyboard have a built in audio interface(soundcard)as well. These are usually via USB or firewire. ...

Does this mean that the Ozone will be able to be used as a standalone keyboard and does not need to be plugged to a PC to produce sounds?

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Unfortunately not. It just means it is your sound card as well as your midi keyboard. It will have analogue ins and outs so you don't have to use a separate audio ineterface/soundcard and it's also got a built in midi interface. All you have to do is plug in a single usb or firewire lead for both midi and audio.

Digigram make high quality PCMCIA soundcards but I think these limit you as if you ever want to work on a desktop or somemone else's computer you won't be able to use it as nearly all non laptop computers don't have a PCMCIA socket. They also use a breakout cable from a tiny multipin connector and are very prone to break.

The audiophile USB is not bus powered, you have to use the AC power supply, making it less portable.

Do you have firewire sockets?

nah but if i need one in order to use a good setup then i'll get one.

i'm still puzzled bout the sound cards.. i was almost certain of getting the audiophile .. now with what u guys are saying there are so many brands that i haven't checked out yet.

isn't there an industry standard:

would make life easier lol

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Rafale, I run an audiophile PCI card in my desktop and the quality is superb. The only things you have to ask yourself is if the Audiophile gives you enough ins and outs, and you don't mind that you have to power it by an external PSU. If the answer is yes then it will be perfect for you. M audio are the best consumer interfaces on the market, and if you really want to go more pro than them, get ready to shell out close to a grand for something like a motu unit.

Go for the audiophile!

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Originally posted by rafale nah but if i need one in order to use a good setup then i'll get one. i'm still puzzled bout the sound cards.. i was almost certain of getting the audiophile .. now with what u guys are saying there are so many brands that i haven't checked out yet. isn't there an industry standard: would make life easier lol

You should better buy a Novation Remote 25

http://www.novationmusic.com/produc...&bArchive=False

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The novation remote 25 is darn good, but it is also £100 more expensive, by then again you do get a keyboard with many knobs......

Djule, where do you record shop in CH? I come over at least 5 times a year?