Well, in 99% of circumstances(basically excluding any loonies), if the tables were turned; the survivor, who was unarmed and wounded, would've been taken into custody and treated for his wounds. In this scenario, the other side found the wounded man, made him stand up on a broken leg, told him to run, and then shot him multiple times at point blank. You seem to think that the U.S. military is not trained to fight with honor. These people are exhibiting behavior like the monkeys in 2001: A Space Odyssey. They are savages. Let's not bring up the incident a couple of years ago when they beat charred bodies and strung them up on a bridge to celebrate the death of Americans.

I'm not saying they should like our being over there. However, the sociopathic behavior they exhibit is deplorable. They are not civilized human beings. Yes, it is dangerous over there. That doesn't make this kind of behavior any more acceptable.

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Originally posted by Nou Well if we didn't want these things to happen we wouldn't have invaded in the first place. We should have looked at the tenacity of Islamic militant/rebel/guerrilla groups and how they have acted in other war zones. They don't take any shit from anyone, even their own country men (which is moot in this case as they don't really consider the Shiites countrymen at all, based on the long history of tension between groups in that area). I don't think people should be surprised, this is how they fight over there. If you cant handle the mess your in, don't get into the mess in the first place, otherwise kindly close your mouth.

oh i can handle it just fine. it actually does make sense to me in some twisted and sick relativist (like youself and others here) way why they murder their own. they were doing it years before we stepped in.

my point is that we all think this is stupid. we all believe the Iraqi people deserve better, right? then the people who are actually on the ground, in the country trying to give the Iraqi people that furure deserve a little more moral support than what you kids, sitting back risking nothing, are spewing.

think about it, your argument is too little too late. the world kept turning while you inhaled the smokescreen of a new European order of isolationism and false unity.

i'm not going to take anything away from people who want better and willing to risk their lives to do it. and i'm not alone.

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Originally posted by Q5echo so they vaporize schools and markets and mosques, voters, policemen, aid workers, humanitarians, elected officials to justify your perception? why don't you go give'em a hand. and i'm not talking about your applause.

Firstly, I'm not celebrating any of this. Secondly, it's a war zone. For them, there's really isn't much distinction between military personel and anyone else there who isn't Iraqi. It's a fucking war zone and they see pretty much anyone not Iraqi there to usurp their resources (oil) and install a puppet goverment which obeys US orders. Plus, we don't get to hear about alot of the crap going on there but they do(like Iraqi women being raped and humiliated by American soldiers). Go watch something else other than fox or cnn. You're in denial and need to snap out of it.

EDIT: not to mention that the fact that they're in a war zone which probably makes the fundamentalist 100 times nuttier.

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Originally posted by Shakka This was pretty ugly considering it was a commercial aircraft. It is a strong reinforcement of the fact that these goons have no respect for human life, yet they hide under the facade of a peaceful religion.

hmmm.. who else matches that description. BUSH!
I'm not trying to flame you or anything Shakka, but I couldnt resist that one.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z It's a fucking war zone and they see pretty much anyone not Iraqi there to usurp their resources (oil) and install a puppet goverment which obeys US orders.

First off, nobody is stealing any oil. Secondly, one would hope that a new government would be friendly towards the U.S. since the U.S. took the lionshare of the risk in the first place, however the goal here is not to install a puppet regime; the longer-term goal is to hand complete and total control back to Iraqis so that they can govern themselves as they see fit, now how a maniacal dictator sees fit(I am talking about Saddam in case any naysayers thought they had an easy layup attack on Dubya).

wow there's a lot of ignorant people here

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Firstly, I'm not celebrating any of this. Secondly, it's a war zone. For them, there's really isn't much distinction between military personel and anyone else there who isn't Iraqi. It's a fucking war zone and they see pretty much anyone not Iraqi there to usurp their resources (oil) and install a puppet goverment which obeys US orders. Plus, we don't get to hear about alot of the crap going on there but they do(like Iraqi women being raped and humiliated by American soldiers). Go watch something else other than fox or cnn. You're in denial and need to snap out of it. EDIT: not to mention that the fact that they're in a war zone which probably makes the fundamentalist 100 times nuttier.

first off, you're an idiot. there i said it. been wanting to for a while.

secondly, tell a newly registered Iraqi voter that he's in denial or to snap out of it. tell the same thing to the Mayor of Baghdad. tell that crap to an Iraqi national guardsman walking his watch at a pipeline somewhere in the desert.

you think your so hip and progressive that you don't believe anything the news tells you? are you in the cool little secret society that knows what really is going on over there and throughout the Greater Middle East?

you're a fucking fraud that fell for the anti-war excuses for hating you're own country for what you're country does best. live with it or grow up.

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Originally posted by Nou How come right wing neo nazi's in the US are almost always christian. Shadowolf, your just as much a nazi as the muslims are you ignorant right winger.

cause they are NEO nazi's you ignorant fuck.

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Originally posted by Q5echo first off, you're an idiot. there i said it. been wanting to for a while. secondly, tell a newly registered Iraqi voter that he's in denial or to snap out of it. tell the same thing to the Mayor of Baghdad. tell that crap to an Iraqi national guardsman walking his watch at a pipeline somewhere in the desert. you think your so hip and progressive that you don't believe anything the news tells you? are you in the cool little secret society that knows what really is going on over there and throughout the Greater Middle East? you're a fucking fraud that fell for the anti-war excuses for hating you're own country for what you're country does best. live with it or grow up.

WAR WAR WAR.. LETS ATTACK LETS ATTACK....WAR WAR WAR.. LETS ATTACK


Youre the ignorant fuck who still supports this futile corporate venture that has really fucked up that region, yuor place in the world.. and the safety of your own country.

WHo the fuck do you think you are going into a nation for your own selfish reasons you pathetic death lover

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Originally posted by Q5echo first off, you're an idiot. there i said it. been wanting to for a while. secondly, tell a newly registered Iraqi voter that he's in denial or to snap out of it. tell the same thing to the Mayor of Baghdad. tell that crap to an Iraqi national guardsman walking his watch at a pipeline somewhere in the desert. you think your so hip and progressive that you don't believe anything the news tells you? are you in the cool little secret society that knows what really is going on over there and throughout the Greater Middle East? you're a fucking fraud that fell for the anti-war excuses for hating you're own country for what you're country does best. live with it or grow up.

And in the context of this discussion....what does your country do best?

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Originally posted by Q5echo so they vaporize schools and markets and mosques, voters, policemen, aid workers, humanitarians, elected officials to justify your perception? why don't you go give'em a hand. and i'm not talking about your applause.

Are you talking about iraqi insurgents or soldiers?

Either way Mars is satisfied.

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