ofcourse it was intended:

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Originally posted by zig Human Rights Watch has called for Donald Rumsfeld and George Tenet to be investigated for their possible role in abuses in Iraq. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4475133.stm

Are you saying ends justifies means? And how the hell is raping women going to provide them with intel? That's just fucking evil.

EDIT: This is directed at TCrew and not zig

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Originally posted by TCrew Do you honestly think we or any one else follows the geneva convention except for when someone else is looking? Its like expecting a little kid not to steal a cookie out of the cookie jar even when no one is looking....in that case....Dubya is the fuckin cookie monster TCrew

I think there are very very very few cases (never say never) were a civilised nation should consider infinging upon someones human rights.

But to do so on a routine basis when the security issue is not directly related to your own national security to such an extent is a compromise of the nations own values. At that point the nation is becoming uncivilised (it no longer sticks to its own values).

What is the point in defending thouse rights and ideals if you are so willing to compromise them yourself?

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Originally posted by Dupz I feel so sorry for all those liberal Americans on this board. Even being from Australia I still get shitty with the Republicans own domestic policies, even though it has absolutely no bearing on my own life.. I couldnt imagine what it'd be to actually live in America, and how frustrating it must be.

Why do you think I'm always trying to expose my country's bullsh*t?

I'm sick and tired of living in such a corrupt society. It seems like very few speak up about it, though.

America is a nation in denial, the dominant force in a world that daily closes its eyes to the hard realities of corruption, discrimination, and outrageously specious rationalization.

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Prosecutors Give Arguments in Marine Case AP - Sun May 1,11:17 AM ET CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. - A Marine accused of murdering two Iraqi detainees intended to make an example of them by shooting them 60 times and hanging a sign over their bodies, prosecutors said Saturday during closing arguments in a pretrial hearing.

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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Shooting 60 fuckin times to show an example?

Funny how they call the Iraqis animals

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Many of the soldiers there, the ones involved in war crimes like the above example, are fucking barbaric.

And then people bitch when the Iraqi's react to attrocities against them.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller