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NiteMer
Prog/Trance Ambassador



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Denver, CO

He's great, but he needs to lay off that low end filter. Sometimes it's a bit much.

That said, I still like his creativity, and would prefer it to be a little over the top, at times, because of the great achievements he accomplishes, at the same time. I've only had the opportunity to see him play, like two records live, at Carry On, but look forward to his next trip to Colorado. Especially with my increasing liking for techy tracks.


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Dickie-T
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: North Pole

hmmmmmmmm never heard him play, whats his musical style (genre)? downloading some sets now, kinda curious after reading these mass-worshipments

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Danny Ocean
Throwin' Shapes



Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Absinthe Party at the Fly Honey Warehouse

yeah hes the man, especially live, never dissapoints! he looks like hes enjoying himself up there, and always down to earth and cool (at least the times iv seen him). He takes track requests, even if he just teases it, signs autographs, takes pictures, all while hes up there doing his shit.

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registerhere
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Minnesota

quote:
Originally posted by JakeC
haha best turntabilst....find some videos of DJ Craze.


DJ Craze you hit it right on. Easily the best turntabilist. If you are talking about only mixing then that may be a different story.

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Googooly
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: United Kingdom

quote:
Originally posted by Dickie-T
hmmmmmmmm never heard him play, whats his musical style (genre)? downloading some sets now, kinda curious after reading these mass-worshipments



hey where you get hes sets? let mek now thanks



i never heard of him too....i want to know him after what I been readin!!!


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Sthlm
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: london

quote:
Originally posted by Dickie-T
hmmmmmmmm never heard him play, whats his musical style (genre)? downloading some sets now, kinda curious after reading these mass-worshipments


mass worship? i'm just giving credit where credit is due buddy.

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NiteMer
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Originally posted by registerhere
DJ Craze you hit it right on. Easily the best turntabilist. If you are talking about only mixing then that may be a different story.


Craze is phenomenal, but you all have to keep in mind that he's a multi-DMC champion, so much so that he's not allowed to enter anymore. He's a different animal, whereas JZ is bringing it to a genre where it isn't as prominent. Only time I've seen Craze, he was playing jungle, but his turntablism was certainly fantastic. I'd love to see one of his hip-hop sets though.

Rectangle's pretty good, and of course Cubert is sick.


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Shook1
In a Haze.....



Registered: May 2003
Location: Sunrise, FL
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quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
Only time I've seen Craze, he was playing jungle, but his turntablism was certainly fantastic. I'd love to see one of his hip-hop sets though.

Rectangle's pretty good, and of course Cubert is sick.


I've seen a hip-hop/d&b set from Craze back in 1999. He's def. sick w/ it! He plays a lot of old-school hiphop blended w/ some nice d&b & kinda does a mini-set of his competition turntablism somewhere w/in the set. He's a cant miss if u ever catch him at a venue.

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Sthlm
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Registered: Feb 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
Craze is phenomenal, but you all have to keep in mind that he's a multi-DMC champion, so much so that he's not allowed to enter anymore. He's a different animal, whereas JZ is bringing it to a genre where it isn't as prominent. Only time I've seen Craze, he was playing jungle, but his turntablism was certainly fantastic. I'd love to see one of his hip-hop sets though.

Rectangle's pretty good, and of course Cubert is sick.


http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/am.../pro.craze.html

he was also on cnn.

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Clovis
techno jungle shit



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

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Originally posted by Aiwendil
it doesn't matter what genre he brings something to. he isn't comparable with turntablists in any way. not only is he nowhere near the best, he IS NOT EVEN A TURNTABLIST, good or bad. scratching and adding accappelas doesn't make him a turntablist. he would be lucky to make it past the first round of his reigonal DMC.


Compare him to other EDM DJ's like Armin or Tiesto...and it is easily apparant that the latter have NO skills what so ever. Zabs is doing something different and something interesting...and making it fun at the same time.

Can't wait to see him live in a few weeks...


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quote:
Originally posted by NomiKhan
the cdj's is not real.

He uses cdjs. He uses cdjs quite well. Nothing he does with them is "unreal" though.
quote:
Originally posted by WM2
I have to agree. Althought I'm sure there are turntablists out that there are better than him technically, at the moment he really seems to be king.

He is not a turntablist.
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Hes a fucking robot!

So am I
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Originally posted by TheVrk
Zabiela = Superman

Easily one of the best if not THE best turntableist....

One of my fave DJs

He is not a turntablist.
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Originally posted by Clovis86
Compare him to other EDM DJ's like Armin or Tiesto...and it is easily apparant that the latter have NO skills what so ever. Zabs is doing something different and something interesting...and making it fun at the same time.

He is doing something interesting, absolutly, he does blow "armin or tiesto" out of the water. However at the same time, one could easily name 50 other EDM djs that do even crazier technical stuff, however they are not as successful as him, and there is a reason for that.

I think whats important to remember, is that regardless of how he is marketed by his "mad skills" at the end of the day he is still an EDM dj. The reason he got where he is isn't because of his scratching, it isnt because of they way he pushes hot cue buttons on a cdj, it is because he plays good records.

Listen to his bedroom bedlam winning mix its pretty much what started it all for him, and it was mixed with 2 technics, and a djm600 mixer (I beleive) Thats right, no cdjs.
No hot cues, no loops, and loop out/in adjusting, no beat cutter, no echo loop/delay drum edits, no Auto Transform Jet/Zip scratching, no movie sampling, just playing records, and a VERY small amount of simple old school scratching (with vinyl, and a crossfader) As far as I know, the same goes for his "4" mix cds. I have not listened to them, but they were recorded early in his career, and from what I've read from various sources, they were recorded with regular old equipment as well (same stuff as the bedlam set) I listened to 1 of the disks at a friends house and again, all I could hear was a bit of simple regular style scratching. His 2002 essential mix and Sound In Motion, utilized CDJs, but sound and motion did not feature any use of the EFX500, that means still no Auto Transform, Jet/Zip scratching. This seems to have come some point after that, because it is featured in his 2004 essential mix, and Alive CD.

The point is his career was not started because of "Mad Turntablist Skillz" Because, to be honest, in comparison to tens of thousands of other djs, he simply doesn't have them. His career started for the same reason all other other EDM djs have, which is the fact that he plays good records, that people enjoy, and he did'nt blatantly rip off any other djs sound. Of course his gimmicky little tricks have helped to hype him up alot, but in the end, for all EDM djs, its about the music they play.

Beatmatching, Equing, Utilizing effects processors, cue points and scratching (especially the auto transform scratch he uses) are things that can be taught to any able bodied person in a reasonable amount of time. Someone with a fair amount of musical training in the past should pick these things up like nothing. Although creativity when using these devices can't be taught so easily, however for most people (again especially people with musical pasts) it should come with a bit of time.

REAL turntablism on the otherhand, is much less pushing buttons, listening to beats closely, and giving a platter a bunch of long backspins. REAL turntablism takes alot of physical skill coordination, and MUCH more creativity, seeing as you only get to work with the same tools they have been working with for decades.

In closing, all I'm trying to say is that what makes him so amazing isnt his technical skills, its his track selection, just as it is for any other EDM dj. If people focus so much on his technical skills, what are they going to do when (if) they ever realise there are ten thousand other djs out there with skills way superior to his? Are they going to stop listening to him? No, because they dont play the records he does (unless they do...in which case they are a ripoff.)

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