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I can wander out the CORe if I want... right?

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I can wander out the CORe if I want... right?

n00b, I'm gonna have to ask you to leave...






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Hey man thats "discrimination"


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Fir3start3r
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Originally posted by Renegade
Many people will face inequities based on their upbringing and heritage, but it has nothing to do with race. A black child, born in the modern US, is - ceteris paribus - not likely to end up any worse off financially than a white child. Therefore - as Arbiter said - race is no basis upon which to measure (or excuse, rather) "the (im)balance of wealth or influence within society".

It is, however, an inescapable fact that wealth is cyclical and readily propagated along hereditary lines almost as well-defined as those of race. Rich parents will give birth to rich children drowned in opportunity and poor parents will give birth to poor children starved of it - this is the basis on which the (im)balance of wealth and power is maintained. Until every child has adequate opportunity to self-actualise (through education etc.), all this talk of "individual mobility" and "the testicular fortitude to succeed" (wtf ) is completely meaningless. In our respective societies, barring a few rare exceptions to the rule, wealth will beget wealth and poverty will beget poverty. This has nothing to do with desire, it has everything to do with opportunity. Until every child has access to a quality education, the propogation of wealth along hereditary lines will continue. This concept, by the way, isn't capitalism, it's aristocracy.


It has everything to do with understanding financial basics a lot more than "hereditary lines".
Less than 1% of millionaires inherit their wealth while the majority have actually worked for it from nothing or less than nothing.
There is no exuse in America not to succeed if someone really wanted to; opportunity has everything to do with personal desire and follow through of the opportunity before them be it education, business, personal goals or otherwise.
Those that lack the spirit of entrepreneurship will never become truly wealthy. Name one person on any millionaire list and there will be a business to point to as the reason (for the majority).

Education is good but hardly a vehicle for wealth when we have PHDs driving taxis and MBAs waitering tables here in Toronto (and we have LOTS of both).
The days of get a good education = get a good job = retire well are long, long gone and THAT is what is needed to be taught in schools, never mind just simple, basic budgeting.
I don't have to go on reciting student loan debt., credit card and personal saving statistics because we all know its only been getting worse.
I'm not slamming education, education is very important, but take it for what it's worth and be very specific about what that education is going to do for them after they're done and before they start.
Otherwise all we get a bunch of whining grads on the end of the meat grinder complaining about 'opportunity'...
ironic nes pas?


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