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Matt
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who announces a budget in an auto parts plant?


fucking Tories.


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Old Post May-17-2005 15:20  Canada
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This is somewhat shocking, however, Belinda isn't exactly what one would consider an idealogically motivated politition. Let's not forget that she had no designs on entering politics until someone told her that should could win the leadership of the conservative party (oops). He decision today is likely motivated by the fact that she is being given a cabinet post whereas it is likely should would not receive one in a Conservative government (as Harper is not very found of her). That being said, she always has been a red tory so this isn't a stretch for her.


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Old Post May-17-2005 15:21  Canada
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btw this is another example of why parliament needs to be reformed. I did not vote for a liberal to be my representitive. I voted for a conservative. This is not democracy.

The fact that she walks into the liberal party with a huge portfolio shows me that the rumours a few weeks ago of the liberals trying to bribe conservatives to switch parties is probably true.

Talk about desperate liberal undemocratic ploys. It's disgusting.

If there was ever a demonstration of just how far the liberals are willing to go to cling to power, this is it. More influence peddling if you ask me. Sell out the house to the lowest bidder in order to stay in power.


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no


Dude, she was CEO of Magna at the time.


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Dude, she was CEO of Magna at the time.


It's daddy's company no matter what title she has. Aurora is my hometown. I know all about the stronach politics. This is why ill be very surprised if people are dumb enough to vote for her after she double crossed her riding. Shes was already on thin ice before.


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Re: Tory Aurora MP Belinda Stronach crosses the floor to the Grits

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I nearly feel out of my chair.


You're not the only one... LMAO!!


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IMO - Miss Stronach is the political equivalent of a whore - whomever dangles the carrot has her tail.

PC Party dangles an easily elected seat and (possible) leadership - she gets into politics.

Liberals dangle a cabinet seat - she changes parties.

This proves that politicians think the public is stupid.


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quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
btw this is another example of why parliament needs to be reformed. I did not vote for a liberal to be my representitive. I voted for a conservative. This is not democracy.

The fact that she walks into the liberal party with a huge portfolio shows me that the rumours a few weeks ago of the liberals trying to bribe conservatives to switch parties is probably true.

Talk about desperate liberal undemocratic ploys. It's disgusting.


Jay, technically you voted for Belinda not for the Conservatives (despite what your thought process was). The only way around this would be to institute perportional representation.... you vote for a party and based on the percentage each party receives they get a perportional number of seats. While this sounds good and many countries have this it is a minority government machine. Moreover, it gives an incredible amount of power to the party leader as they decide who gets what seat. Personally, I don't like it, however, I agree that there should be some accountability measure for instances like this... perhaps an immediate bi-election would be appropriate.


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IMO - Miss Stronach is the political equivalent of a whore - whomever dangles the carrot has her tail.

PC Party dangles an easily elected seat and leadership - she gets into politics.

Liberals dangle a cabinet seat - she changes parties.

This proves that politicians think the public is stupid.


I really hope she pays for this at the ballot box. If i were a liberal id be pissed off that this woman with absolutely no experience suddenly gets a huge portfolio. If i were Martha findlay id be especially furious. She has just be undemocratically ousted as the candidate in that riding.

This is not a good political move and definately not good for democracy in canada.


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As a result of this - I believe there should be a "Party Change" rule in the house.

If on decides to change parties, they must have a bi-election within the riding.


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Old Post May-17-2005 15:29  Canada
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As a result of this - I believe there should be a "Party Change" rule in the house.

If on decides to change parties, they must have a bi-election within the riding.


EXACTLY

There should also be an investigation into the allegations that the Liberals have been trying to bribe conservative MPs over the past few weeks with offers such as this one.

It just demonstrates to me that the Liberals have learned ABSOLUTELY nothing from the sponsorship scandal except that they can probably get away with just about everything they do.


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Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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