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DJMaytag
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have you done the performance tweaks listed on http://www.blackvper.com/ ? They can free up a good bit of CPU that XP is unnecessarily hogging by default. Make sure you get rid of anything that is always running that can be manually started later (a cluttered deskbar tray with tons of icons is a good visual indicator that tons of stuff is running).


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Zack Roth
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hey thanks guys. I moved teh buffer all the way to the right and its working perfectly now.

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Kiddy5825
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For the last few weeks I've been getting a bit worried as to why Ableton live was overloading all the time whilst only running a few NI vst's.
Just realsied I've had my sample rate set to 96000k for the last few months.

Doh!

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quote:
Originally posted by Luke Terry


up the buffer, stick polling + hardware buffer on

ive only got 512mb ram and get by, just lol. the hardware soundcard gets an extra 10% worth of cpu or so for you to play with if you fancy upgrading there

you can always bounce the track to wave and import which reduces the cpu a lot if the instrument has a high polyphony



I was just about to post a thread on this. Sory to highjsck but i only need one answer and i can tell id get flamed by opening another one Ive got myself a 3.2ghz with 512 ram (need mroe i know) and i NEVER thought id ever use my cpu limit with reason, but low and behold after a mixing and mastering session with my lecuturer today, ive put eq and compression....well on everything lol. n now i cant even play just the percs bassline and lead without it crying at me.

so what can i do with this? literally export some of the channels (like percs im using, considering im using over 2 full Rerum units with every instrument alocated its own EQ unit and compression unit) and import them as samples? Its obviously do-able but sounds like it could cause a few problems, anyone have any ideas or techniques that could help? Thanks


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Just realsied I've had my sample rate set to 96000k for the last few months.

Doh!



So have i. Whats wrong with that?


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IDarkISwordI
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Hey. In my honest opinion, you really shouldnt need to compress everythign individually. The only things that truely need to be compressed are instruments that make the mix muddy, like swing basslines, long basslines and kicks and some other percussive sounds. Youll get a much better mix of your song by doing this and then appyling a single compressor over the entire track. This will clean things up emensely(sp?) while loosening the rope around your cpu.

In answer to you setting your sample rate to 96kHz: Theres one important piece of information you need to provide us with to make a clear judgement on if its ok for you to have it set at 96kHz or not, the type of sound card you have. If you have a newer Audigy (Audigy 2 or above) then you are probably ok. If you have some type of professional sound card, you are most definantly ok. If you arent using either of those, then you are in trouble . To give a clear impression of what goes on with sample rates, you need to think about digital pictures, thumbnails, wallpapers, whatever. Think about blowing up a picture only to find it loses its detail in graininess and realizing its completely pointless to blow that picture up that big because the detail isnt there. Appyling this to sample rates and sound, its the exact same deal. Unfortunately, if you dont have a card that handles onboard upsampling, then you're forcing your processor to do a lot of extra work for quality you arent going to be able to hear out of your sound card, nor on a cd. The only good reason really to use 96kHz, is if you are planning to make a lo-fi DVD-Audio disc or lo-fi Super Audio CD. Turn it down to 44.1kHz and I'm willing to bet that youll see a performance jump .

Hope this helped.

Cheers,
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h.vox
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quote:
Originally posted by Unknown DJ
I was just about to post a thread on this. Sory to highjsck but i only need one answer and i can tell id get flamed by opening another one Ive got myself a 3.2ghz with 512 ram (need mroe i know) and i NEVER thought id ever use my cpu limit with reason, but low and behold after a mixing and mastering session with my lecuturer today, ive put eq and compression....well on everything lol. n now i cant even play just the percs bassline and lead without it crying at me.

so what can i do with this? literally export some of the channels (like percs im using, considering im using over 2 full Rerum units with every instrument alocated its own EQ unit and compression unit) and import them as samples? Its obviously do-able but sounds like it could cause a few problems, anyone have any ideas or techniques that could help? Thanks

So have i. Whats wrong with that?


you have put an eq and compressor on EVERYTHING? damn. why? you put those if you need them, and you judge that by your ear, not because someone tells you "that's the way pros do it". i am sure you do not need compressor on EVERYTHING. what should you do? the easiest thing to do is to find sounds you do not need to mangle with. the result of that is the most natural sound you can get. many musicians just choose instruments which have their own frequency range, and use playing techniques which make compressors unnecessary.

also, 96 khz sampling rate is killing you. with 48 khz you will literally halve the processor power needed for your projects. it is best to work in 44.1 and then possibly render in 96 khz. also, try increasing buffer size.

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MessiahProject
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Just to butt in- you guys keep saying how much CPU things are using - how can you tell??
Im using Cubase Sx - is there something I click to show me how much each Vst is using??

Or is it something in my control panel?

MP

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quote:
Originally posted by h.vox
you have put an eq and compressor on EVERYTHING? damn. why? you put those if you need them, and you judge that by your ear, not because someone tells you "that's the way pros do it". i am sure you do not need compressor on EVERYTHING. what should you do? the easiest thing to do is to find sounds you do not need to mangle with. the result of that is the most natural sound you can get. many musicians just choose instruments which have their own frequency range, and use playing techniques which make compressors unnecessary.

also, 96 khz sampling rate is killing you. with 48 khz you will literally halve the processor power needed for your projects. it is best to work in 44.1 and then possibly render in 96 khz. also, try increasing buffer size.


Im using an Audiophile 24/96 if that helps. Why did i compress everything? well im kinda new to the compressing stage, i know the basics but its stil la bit confusing so im only really experimenting, my kick sounds amazing now tho i notised the 96 is killin the cpu when i put the sample rate down to 44.1. But it didnt sound as nice


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