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Originally posted by staticblue no it's from left to right, wes, peter and subtle

where the hell did u get that picture

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Originally posted by IDarkISwordI Hey. Not trying to be objective here, but how can you not possibly respect atleast Vangelis. Vangelis, while a bit crazy/wierd/whatever, he created some of the most amazing pads and synth sounds that many companies try to create in new hardware and software and he did it before MIDI was even a thought. All analog and brand new were voltage controllers (pre-MIDI controllers that used voltage changes instead of digital data). The fact that he was able to do what he did with little help from other people is way more than enough to offer atleast some respect and honor. Just show some repspect and appreciation. We would seriously be in a totally different world with synths if he hadnt come along. Cheers, Zac

I don't give a shit if the guy made his synths by rubbing his ass cheeks together. If music doesn't sound good, it doesn't sound good, no matter how much effort a guy put into it.

To the creator of this thread (Einstein?) I salut you. I too don't enjoy the 'Father' of EDM style that soo many people defend with their lives.

I think it's not a question of I love that/I hate that. WHO CARES YOU DON'T LIKE VANGELIS?

It's your right to like hime or not, but you have to recognize that Eletronic Music wouldn't be what it is now if Vangelis hadn't composed his tracks like this, if Kraftwerk hadn't made this electro tracks.

Before I began to listen techno and other electronic music styles I was so impressed by the work of Vangelis, Jean-Michel Jarre and some other guys. Who used the synths by this way in the past except them? Who would use it like this now if they hadn't made that before?

I think the subject of this thread is a little bit unuseful, because what's the interest of saying? I DON'T LIKE THEM! GNAGNAGNI GNAGNAGNA.

You have just to realize that everything would be different if those guys hadn't opened the way by trying these crazy things.

The Blade Runner Sound Track is wonderful. I love the main theme!

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Hey. Thank you DJule, very well said. I'm going to go ahead and guess, you kids havent even heard the Blade Runner Theme. Its actually a bit of a mix between house and trance and then mixed with a bit of classical music. Like Djule and I said, you dont have to like his music, but you should atleast be able to respect his music enough to not start threads that are meant to spit on him. Either way, he still made more money than youll see in your music career with an attitude like you have.


For those of you who havent heard the Blade Runner Theme, here is a 2m sample.
Vangelis - Blade Runner Theme

Cheers,
Zac

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Originally posted by IDarkISwordI Hey. Thank you DJule, very well said. I'm going to go ahead and guess, you kids havent even heard the Blade Runner Theme. Its actually a bit of a mix between house and trance and then mixed with a bit of classical music. Like Djule and I said, you dont have to like his music, but you should atleast be able to respect his music enough to not start threads that are meant to spit on him. Either way, he still made more money than youll see in your music career with an attitude like you have. For those of you who havent heard the Blade Runner Theme, here is a 2m sample. Vangelis - Blade Runner Theme Cheers, Zac

umm did you see my post... And please dont classify blade runner as house or trance. there is no need to make comparisons that arent even there... Just leave it as good music..

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And for everyone who shows a lack of respect for the music of the past generations... This is why your music is unoriginal, unimaginative and boring to know where your music is going you must first know where it has been. This is also the reason why dance music reached its peak in the late 90s. People stoped being creative.

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Hey. Thanks frost, but I think I know my genres pretty well. If you dont agree, then surely you have an alternative suggestion as to how you would classify the Blade Runner Theme. To me, I hear a 4x4 beat (though quiet making it slightly chill progressive), strained pads and a resonated bassline. All I hear are elements that are common in trance an house music these days.

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Zac

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if u listen to new wave those are the real fathers of techno and dance and trance and evethythign with a 909 and 808 drums

depeche mode
fear for fears
aha

depeche mode - people are people had the first drum loop

all new wave guys where in too moogs and other synths


kraftwerk and others are just people that were lookinf for a new sound

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Originally posted by IDarkISwordI Hey. Thanks frost, but I think I know my genres pretty well. If you dont agree, then surely you have an alternative suggestion as to how you would classify the Blade Runner Theme. To me, I hear a 4x4 beat (though quiet making it slightly chill progressive), strained pads and a resonated bassline. All I hear are elements that are common in trance an house music these days. Cheers, Zac

lets forget genres for a moment and call it good music...

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Originally posted by IDarkISwordI Hey. Thanks frost, but I think I know my genres pretty well. If you dont agree, then surely you have an alternative suggestion as to how you would classify the Blade Runner Theme. To me, I hear a 4x4 beat (though quiet making it slightly chill progressive), strained pads and a resonated bassline. All I hear are elements that are common in trance an house music these days. Cheers, Zac

there is no 4x4 beat. there is no beat at all. it is writen in 4x4 (i think) and it has nothing to do with house or trance (ofcourse trance has alot classical music elements) progressive??? lol.do you even know what progressive (house/trance i guess) is???? and yes they are fucking progressive but not the genre.

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All I hear are elements that are common in trance an house music these days.

and that is becAUSE jean michel jarre and vangelis have bein arround for quite some time...yep! b4 techno b4 trance b4 house and maybe b4 fucking disco . find the vinyl... jean michel jarre - oxygen... and read the date for gods sake. the genre could be described as electronic classical music (maybe thats how its "called" dunno).
and maybe


now to the thread starter... i actually like vangelis and jarre, but as others have said thats just a matter of taste. they are "gods" if you sit down learn and think how these guys affected the music as we know today.

Hey. Thanks for the passionate response Jason F. You know, I did happen to post a sample to prove otherwise that there is a beat in there, its just quiet. As for it having to do nothing with trance or house, I'd highly beg to differ. While yes, vangelis came before what we now know as trance, many of his elements have been looked to (this has been previously said but obviously not read) for ideas on how to design hardware and software synths. And yes, thank you, I do know what progressive means. If you would like a musical definition of progressive (in the terms of styles), its where a song builds to a climatic center center and dies down. This is unlike many sopngs heard on the radio or found in other genres of edm, such as techno or the standard forms of hosue where a melody plainly comes in and plainly comes in and out. In terms of musical history, progressive has also been known to be defined as a defining point in musical history or where a song makes a large jump in terms of creativeness. So thank you once again for trying to disprove me but sorry for your being wrong.

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Zac

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Just because something is written 4/4 has nothing to do with house trance etc... Just leave it as good synth music... No need to classify it further.

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