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I am fortunate enough to remember when Voyager 1 was launched, looks like "vinyl" will be around forever, travelling through "the void".

I once saw a DJ, long ago, that had 2 "prop" gold records with the male and female representaions, and the "starburst" on them (like Voyager's disc) very cool!

Yes, I've not forgotten about these first, and who knows...possibly last for a long time, deep space probes.

You would think in almost 30 years we would have become a "space bound" species, very disappointing ....well maybe in my next life


Well, Voyagers weren't really made as deep space probes, their primary mission was to explore the outer solar planets except for Pluto. Both they and the Pioneer 10 have operated well beyond their intended lifespan. As for the deep space probes, Pluto-Kuiper probe will be launched, probably in 2007.

But really, you can't travel to deep space with current propulsion methods. It took Voyagers 30 years to reach the edge of the solar system, but the radius of the solar system is some 100 times smaller than the distance to our nearest star. The only way to go deep space would be to find something better than the current chemical rockets, or even something better than what is being developed right now. Probably nothing less of nuclear/fusion/antimatter drives can do it, and those are still years away...well, except for nuclear and the Project Orion


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Deep Space 1 and Ion Propulsion


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Deep Space 1 and Ion Propulsion


Yes, I know of DS1 probe and the Ion Propulsion engine, and although it's way better than the regular chemical rockets, it's still not really sufficient for interstellar travel. You see, if the xenon gas travels at 35km/s relative to the spacecraft, that means that the craft can go forward at max 17.5km/s, and while that is some 10 times better than the conventional chemical rockets, it still measures up only to 0.00005c, meaning that it would take mere 80000 years to reach the nearest star. Let's say that the technology will improve 10 or even 100 times, that still leaves us with 8000 or 800 years of travel. The reason I mentioned fusion and antimatter is that for generating that much hihger velocities of gas, you need much more electricity. And you really can't get that much of it from solar panels unless the ship is the size of Manhattan.


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Let's just try to get back to the Moon first, then we could have the correct enviornment to test new modes of interstellar travel.

Just think of all the untapped natural resources of the Moon and the tourist possibilities...the new Las Vegas.

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