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Scorchio
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Lexicon Avenue

Thanks for your replies, I hope a mod will see this thread and perhaps decide to stick it.

Some of you gave interesting tips that are proved to be useful.

Now to some of my methods:

1. If I have a powefull tune playing and I'd like to create a mix that enhances the power of the next track I'll always start off by mixing the Hi frequency in first and then gently smoothing the Mid's in at the same time, then I'll slightly switch the bass off for a few seconds and when a bar finishes I'll switch in the bass of the new track in a fast motion,
this always gives the feeling like you never went and transitioned the track but rather simply played it in in a cutting move.

2. Its always nice to keep your vocals playing after youve mixed the track out, a great example for a track that keeps the vocals playing after youve already mixed it out is Peace Division - What Is That Sound [King Unique Re-Edit]
It has a point where you can mix the track out and still have almost 20 seconds of spoken vocals, if mixed correctly as soon as your tracks bassline will kick in the word "WOW" will enter in the background from the outgoing track and that will create a pretty cool effect.

3. A Nice way to finish off a mix is also cutting your tracks in a way that will create a mini build-up before your new track enters fully.

You do this by lowering one track's bass down all the way and fading your channels in and out like counting 1,2,3,4
IE

1. Left Fader Up
2. Right Fader Up
3. Left Fader Down
4. Right Fader Down

And repeat for as long as you want
Sounds really cool if performed correctly.


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Abhay
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Registered: May 2004
Location: mould coast

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
hes thinking!

http://www.pssl.com <--- check out mixers/equipment there.

not all are 4 channels, dj mixers range from something like 2-16 channels?

being a really good mixer takes a lot of time, and it looks to me liek ur just starting out.. so practice.

you could have as many sources as you wanted, if you can handle them all.


You have no fucking idea how much your encouragement helps pov n00bs like me....

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Abhay
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Registered: May 2004
Location: mould coast

One thing that i do for example, is reversing the playing track before switching to the cued track.

A perfect example would be to change from the bassline from a standard trance track (coeming to an end), to one with a really heavy defined bass.., Liek Dj Tiesto- Traffic...

In Traffic the bass goes Doof, Dooof dooof dooof.. DWOOOOoosssshhhF... Doof, Dooof dooof dooof.. DWOOOOooooossffffF... Doof, Dooof dooof dooof.. DWOOOOssshhhffff... ..... then as the track gets is about to get moving, it all comes to a CRASH WITH A REALLY pronounced DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOOOOOOFffffff, adn the track takes off like a standard trance track...

this is a perfect example...

if i was switching, I bring up the dull bass, (the fader is half-way)... If i have a sample of a constant, rumbling, deep sub-bass, i start playing it on loopp for a couple of secnods... then about 3 seconds before the crash arrives in TRAFFIC, I start reversing the playing track.... and then SWITCH to traffic just as the crash comes in...

It's a little trick off parade of the Athlete ;-D

It makes it all sound like the original track is getting blown to pieces, or being DISTORTED by the incoming track... it goes in really well...
u need a really well pronounced- defined build up, with a lot of energy... before the cued track gets moving... traffic is a perfect example

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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
You have no fucking idea how much your encouragement helps pov n00bs like me....


i do my best, im not a master, but i can hold my own, so i try and help as much as possible.


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Psionic
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Boston, MA

Are there any videos online showing how to do some of these techniques? Or do any of you guys wanna make videos of yourselves performing them? I'm very interested.

Old Post Jun-15-2005 23:55  Israel
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Dizkojockey
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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Coventry

With eq theres no set way to use it to get a perfect mix,you just have to generally feel the music,one helpfull bit of advice i will give you you is watch the bass this is very very important to getting a smooth mix some mixes you will swap and others blend you should really try blend the bass with 90% of your mixes just swapping doesnt give you much control and sounds to abrupt,also with eq try to reduce frequencies rather than boost this sounds more natural,hope this helps,keep practicing.

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Axolotyl
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quote:
Originally posted by Nou
Cool trick for CDJ-800's or any CD player where you can adjust the loops out point in real time is to loop a kick and then gradually make the loop time shorter so you can create mini kick rolls... or snare rolls, or whatever.

Also playing vocal snippits with it and adusting the length is fun.


Yeah, I do that all the time... its a wicked effect. You can even go further and keep shortening down the loop time so it gets to even less than a single beat. It creates this stuttering effect that gets faster and faster and faster the shorter you make the loop point. Add in a flanger or a phaser and you have your very own fx driven buildup. If you preset a cue point at the break, you can then jump stright to the break. Works a treat


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Axolotyl
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Check out this video for an example of what you can do with CD deck trickery.

Beware... it is hip-hop but its well worth watching. He does some cool tricks with loops and samples and stuff.


http://www.djshyproductions.com/med...denon/DJSHY.WMV


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RJT
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quote:
Originally posted by Nou
Cool trick for CDJ-800's or any CD player where you can adjust the loops out point in real time is to loop a kick and then gradually make the loop time shorter so you can create mini kick rolls... or snare rolls, or whatever.

Also playing vocal snippits with it and adusting the length is fun.


Thanks Nou - I've been looking for some inspiration to play around with my CDJ 800's loops... Timing is rough to catch at first, but fun to work on no less...


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rabbitjoker
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Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA

quote:
Originally posted by Dizkojockey
With eq theres no set way to use it to get a perfect mix,you just have to generally feel the music,one helpfull bit of advice i will give you you is watch the bass this is very very important to getting a smooth mix some mixes you will swap and others blend you should really try blend the bass with 90% of your mixes just swapping doesnt give you much control and sounds to abrupt,also with eq try to reduce frequencies rather than boost this sounds more natural,hope this helps,keep practicing.


i agree 100%. good advice.


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Wyndham
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Toronto

can anyone do anything remotely eddie halliwell style.. hes fuckin nuts.. i know how he does it all, just dont have the equipment to try and practice it Would be cool to hear from anyone thats tried his cd scratching, beat juggling etc???

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bokus
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Registered: Dec 2003
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Not sure if it was mentioned. But I call it the power down. Probably a real professional dj name for it. But right when a track is breaking down and the track has a strong synth or bass after the break down, I turn the power off so its a slower of a break down flip the power back on and press start right when the hard synth/bass comes in. Works good for the part in Traffic if you know the part im talking about.

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