I hope that trance will become more freeformish over the years because it's quite boring when it's stuck with the structure it has today (everyone has the same kind of intros etc.)

the fine part is that we don't have to speculate about this, instead of speculating we should realize that it's we among others that has the evolution of trance in our hands it's just a matter of being brave enough to not use the same structure as everyone else.

and it's bollocks that the dj's need the structure to be able to mix it, a good dj can mix anything with anything!

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the fine part is that we don't have to speculate about this, instead of speculating we should realize that it's we among others that has the evolution of trance in our hands it's just a matter of being brave enough to not use the same structure as everyone else.

Applause.

very well said.

psy gets into a rut too. as does freeform.

303s get rinsed in psy and freeform just as supersaws get rinsed in trance. hey - violin's get rinsed in classical music and orchestral soundtracks. it doesnt have much to do with the instrument itself, more like how its used. i never tire of hearing a good 303 sound. ive listened to fatali's city of god hundreds of times and every time *that* 303 lead comes in. and everytime *that* melodic breakdown fades i break into a grin. ill bet that everyone here has a song in mind where they can listen to it a hundred times and the same thing. the same breakdown or the same build up gets you every fucking time.

course, for every fatali tune that drops a 303 like that, theres 50 others which dont do it as well in my opinion. its in the nature of the volume of art produced that ill love a handful and not care about the rest because its mediocre. after protoculture remixed silicon sound, i just havent ever heard a psytune which has topped it or got me like that tune did.

im not really big on the whole isratrance thing that astrix and infected mushroom are embarking on right now but i guess theres plenty of people that do enjoy it.

if i dislike a supersaw sound or a 303 sound it is most of the time because the producer has failed to impress me with the instrument s/he is using. i think psy is past its peak. its had its defining moment already. which is not to say it wont have another. but psytrance these days has just as many generic, ordinary average, doesnt jump out at me kinds of tunes. pretty much every eskimo tune i listen to is well produced but boring as. theres a couple of alien project cds out there that are just...mistakes. really big mistakes.

if i start to appreciate a different style of music, its normally not because its more 'original' - pretty much every q-tex freeform tune over the years does the same digital piano thing. the same bouncy basslines. it works. sometimes they strike a chord with me. sometimes not. but freeform is no more or less 'original' than anything else. if you end up liking freeform more than trance its probably because you have less exposure to the freeform formula than the trance formula. you have to work it out all over again. thats to be expected really. most of the people here practically study trance. alot of the people here can build alot of trance type instruments starting from scratch - nothing but a sine/saw wave. when you know a tune so well you can write out all the notes, the instrument used, which oscillator types were used and how many and what effects processors are on it, it kind of loses its magic. time to move on.

its inevitable that some people will become jaded and bored with the same sound. thats your cue to move on to something else.

Last edited by Derivative on Jun-13-2005 at 01:39

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lots and lots of yodeling

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TECH TRANCE


MARCEL WOODS, SAM SHARP, MARCO V, RON VAN DEN BUEKEN to name a few.

that is all that i play these days, banging tech trance,fucking love it. Prog doesnt have the power in peak hours of the party, this is the most adrenaline packed trance out there.....(of course in my humble opinion)

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righto.....that shit is moving up in the world....ever hear Bryon Garlick? he mixes the fuck outta that stuff....

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I think music will just go on and never die. What will end is the status that's given to popular artists and DJs. Right now they're treated like gods. As time progresses, and as there's more and more of them, producing music will just come to be seen as any other profession - like doctors, city workers, etc. Think about it; when rock and roll started, there was only elvis, and he wasn't just any musician, he was the king. Now? There's a million elvisses, and none of them are the king.

Trance will die out(still be played but not on a massive scale). Then when all of use are using these new high tech synths and vst's and it get really boring(like now), some kid will strat to use some cheap ass oldschool equipment that nobody wants to use anymore and rock the house with crazy "new-trance" tunes.

Oh and yes this is the past i'm talking about....in the late 80's and early 90's(very early) digital synths were the shit, then dj's and producers that couldn't afford all that expensive digital gear went out and bought old cheap analog synths that nobody really used anymore and made tunes...thus, trance was born!(BT claims he invented trance...it evolved, it didnt just come to pass one day)

So my theory is:
cheap digital synths + old crappy analog synths = New-Trance

we need to start exploring the tools that are underutilized and labeled as not worthy(by who? and for what?)

get off your damn Virus' and JP fucking 8080's and start exploring new territory(or should I say old synths)...damn I feel like making a tune with a freaking cheap ass 80's happy birthday fucking preset Casio and a Radioshack Moog....that will give you a freaking CONGASAW or two!!!!!

hey what do I know...I'm fucked!

Last edited by Limit on Jun-13-2005 at 11:26

Agreed Limit let's get back to making music with the old tissue box guitar and plastic rice drums we all made back in school Those were the days!

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