I'm sure they've done some kind of cost-benefit analysis on this and have reached the conclusion that it'll save more money on health care than they will lost in tax revenue of death missile sales.

Government is just another business people, and they're trying to slash costs. I'm just glad I'm not, or ever have been a smoker. The only bad thing this is gonna do for me is make smoking weed in tobacco friendly places more difficult.

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I wish that cigarettes were illegal and that I could be a convicted fellon if caught with them in my posession.

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Originally posted by Goashem i meant compensate me in a more direct way. as a middle class person i dont get to see too much money from the government (not to mention the government is stealing that money to win the election). but i do get to breath enough smoke when im walking outside. id love to see the complete ban of smoking in ALL public places.

if that bothers you so much then please dont drive your car so i dont have to breathe your fumes. The fumes from cars are probably 10000 X more harmfull then the 10 seconds a month that you probably get a drift of cig smoke when outside.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 if that bothers you so much then please dont drive your car so i dont have to breathe your fumes. The fumes from cars are probably 10000 X more harmfull then the 10 seconds a month that you probably get a drift of cig smoke when outside.

That's a good point Jay, but I have to say the science of your arguement is not at all true. Cigarettes smoke is FAR more dangerous to humans than car fumes. If you watched the national tonight you would be able to draw that exact same conclusion, as there was a story on smog causing deaths, and after interviewing a doctor, claimed that cigarettes are far more dangerous to the public than smog. It went as far as to say smog had virtually no effect of the respiratory system of moderately physically fit people.

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so walking down a busy street every day full of busses and cars is healthier over all than catching a passing whiff of cigarette smoke from some guy on the street once in a blue moon? I cant even remember the last time that happened to me.

If you believe this then i have swampland in the everglades for sale.

If people smoking outdoors bothers people then they need to get a life.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 if that bothers you so much then please dont drive your car so i dont have to breathe your fumes. The fumes from cars are probably 10000 X more harmfull then the 10 seconds a month that you probably get a drift of cig smoke when outside.

i dont drive a car
you talk about being all pro choice, well i rather NOT smell cigarette smoke. so it really annoys me when someone smokes and i cant do shit about it.

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Originally posted by Sly_Guy there was a story on smog causing deaths, and after interviewing a doctor, claimed that cigarettes are far more dangerous to the public than smog.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who watches CBC news (great news organization btw) - I felt old watching the national/journal every night...

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Originally posted by Goashem i dont drive a car you talk about being all pro choice, well i rather NOT smell cigarette smoke. so it really annoys me when someone smokes and i cant do shit about it.

do you take the bus? Do you have people drive you places? what about when you fart? why should i be forced to endure that discomfort?

it may sound funny but people are going to do things that affect you in some way or another just as you do things that affect them. Thats the trade off that people are forgetting that living in a society is all about.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 do you take the bus? Do you have people drive you places? what about when you fart? why should i be forced to endure that discomfort? it may sound funny but people are going to do things that affect you in some way or another just as you do things that affect them. Thats the trade off that people are forgetting that living in a society is all about.

ok you have to make a difference between necessities and wants. it is not a necessity to smoke. it is a necessity to get my ass to work so i can make money and eat. you take this cigarrete arguement to extremes. yes people will do things to effect me but if one of those things is something that i do not like in my life and the government wants to ban it im all for it.

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Originally posted by Goashem ok you have to make a difference between necessities and wants. it is not a necessity to smoke. it is a necessity to get my ass to work so i can make money and eat. you take this cigarrete arguement to extremes. yes people will do things to effect me but if one of those things is something that i do not like in my life and the government wants to ban it im all for it.

what about the day the government goes to the same extremes to ban something that you like?

What then?

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 so walking down a busy street every day full of busses and cars is healthier over all than catching a passing whiff of cigarette smoke from some guy on the street once in a blue moon? I cant even remember the last time that happened to me. If you believe this then i have swampland in the everglades for sale. If people smoking outdoors bothers people then they need to get a life.

I'm not disagreeing with your point jay, I'm simply stating that based on daily routines, it's not sound in the sense that the damage done to your biological person is not equal.

I don't like cigarette smoke, but I can't in good conscience make the decision to smoke for people for them. Smoking outside is fine by me, indoors it is not. Simply because indoors I may not have a choice to inhale it, where as outdoors, I can walk away more easily.

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*yawn*

can someone just post the link to the 500 threads where this has already been endlessly debated?