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Mr. Pink
Furiously Happy

Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Atlanta, bitchezzz
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| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
yea but the point of all philosophy and ontology is that mass perception is reality. So if EVERYONE smoked shit and saw shit and it was god, would it not BE god? |
ok here's the issue..........mass perception is reality.
that's the problem....... no one ever truly knows if anything can be perceived through the masses because perception, innately, is solely based on the individual.
so if we have a collective perception, that's just the utilitarian form of reality....what's best for everyone must be the best option, in general.
however, just because, through society we have ONE perception, it doesn't mean it's correct, or even that it truly exists.
going back to the individual, where perception is the foundation of thought, we notice that we have our own realities.
Our best attempt to form a collective is through LANGUAGE, which in and of itself, isn't a collectively understood realm. Not speaking on the basis of various languages, but various interpretations of words, and languages attempt to communicate the unwordly into a wordly fashion.
..........and stuff. 
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Jun-21-2005 03:45
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nchs09
Traceaddict in training

Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Inside your mum
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| quote: | Originally posted by Mr. Pink
ok here's the issue..........mass perception is reality.
that's the problem....... no one ever truly knows if anything can be perceived through the masses because perception, innately, is solely based on the individual.
so if we have a collective perception, that's just the utilitarian form of reality....what's best for everyone must be the best option, in general.
however, just because, through society we have ONE perception, it doesn't mean it's correct, or even that it truly exists.
going back to the individual, where perception is the foundation of thought, we notice that we have our own realities.
Our best attempt to form a collective is through LANGUAGE, which in and of itself, isn't a collectively understood realm. Not speaking on the basis of various languages, but various interpretations of words, and languages attempt to communicate the unwordly into a wordly fashion.
..........and stuff. | not the same discussion with the 3 bottles in the house and steven storming out of the room again. lol
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| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD |
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Jun-21-2005 03:47
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Slylee
love lockdown

Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood, FL
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| quote: | Originally posted by Mr. Pink
ok here's the issue..........mass perception is reality.
that's the problem....... no one ever truly knows if anything can be perceived through the masses because perception, innately, is solely based on the individual.
so if we have a collective perception, that's just the utilitarian form of reality....what's best for everyone must be the best option, in general.
however, just because, through society we have ONE perception, it doesn't mean it's correct, or even that it truly exists.
going back to the individual, where perception is the foundation of thought, we notice that we have our own realities.
Our best attempt to form a collective is through LANGUAGE, which in and of itself, isn't a collectively understood realm. Not speaking on the basis of various languages, but various interpretations of words, and languages attempt to communicate the unwordly into a wordly fashion.
..........and stuff. |
u said "perception" & "collective" a lot.

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My soliloquy may be hard for some to swallow, but so is cod liver oil.
| quote: | Originally posted by notelfreak
man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone |
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