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igottaknow
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: The Future

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
The communication program at WWU is the second-most competitive in the university. (The most competitive is the Woodring School of Education, followed closely by the Industrial Design program.) There were 13,000 students enrolled this past year. The communication program allows about 450 students at a time. The average applicant has to apply three times before getting into the program. I got in on my first shot because I had the benefit of an existing student mentor that told me how to put my portfolio together. My portfolio was 72 pages long including my application, resume, letter of interest, four writing samples, three letters of reccomendation, and an essay on what I thought made me a viable candidate for the program.

If you think communication is a bullshit major, think again. The two most sought-after skills in the American workforce today are communication skills and computer skills, in that order. Why? Because other majors don't require that students know anything about how to communicate effectively with other people. (Business majors at most major universities aren't even required to take ethics courses, so I find it hard to believe that anyone could find anything bad to say about a communication major.)

Do you even know what a communication major does to get their degree? I've yet to run into someone who calls it a bullshit major that even knows what it takes to finish the program.

I apologize for coming out on the defensive, but if you had just spent two years of your life studying things that most of the rest of this country doesn't even understand only to be told to go back to college, you'd be pretty fucking irked about it. One of my final papers for my degree was 53 pages on the influences of residence hall life on the social and educational development of college students in the United States, for the love of God. There are no studies on that. I had to develop my own surveys... conduct my own interviews... I did it my fucking self. I didn't sit in the library and piggy-back on someone else's research. If you know someone else who has done that for their Bachelor's degree, please tell me. Otherwise, think before you post something stupid.

Hope you didn't hyperventilate while writing that reply. Take a deep breath and re-read my post the smiley indicates I was j/k. I thought as a communications major you could pick up on that.

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Ripped Bag
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Everyone and their mother has a BA now, so what I suggest is going outside the country, getting your TEFL cert and teaching English in some foriegn land for a year. Then coming back and working on your MA while doing LOTS of volunteer work, interships, and then by the time you've got it you've got experience, education, and money. Lots of work, but thats life.


Or, you could do some SERIOUS soul searching and find out what it is you really want to do. I've known several masters holds that worked for large firms, and then just realized the job is eating away at their being. Two now work making candles and love life..


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vrahnos
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Heraklion, Crete

dunno whats up in there...we have different cultures....
but, dont expect to reach the top from the beggining....
ofcourse you'll make coffee for your supervisors...

i studied information technology....but my knoledges are way beyond that piece of shit paper that i've got...
after i finished my army-time i started working as a security guard....
1 year later, out of nowhere i got a phonecall...
one of greece's biggest electronic shops will open a branch in my town, so, they want me for executive manager
twice the money i'm getting now and less hours...
fuck, i'm 22, thats big shit!!! i'll quit my current job next month and then someone else is going to make my coffee (nah, i'm not that kind of guy )

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plastikE
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: AZ

It would have really helped to get an internship relating to your studies; more-so, networking with people inside the company you did the internship at. It really helps to know people in high places.

Like they say it's not what you know, it's who you know.

From the sound of your experience and knowledge and previous volunteer work though, I wouldn't worry too much. Frictional unemployment isn't bad; in fact, its the most desirable type of unemployment since it usually isn't long-term. Keep the interviews going, and don't get discouraged. Even if you do get an offer, you don't have to take it just because it 'is' a job (I.E. coffee boy)...keep posting and you're bound to get a good offer with a decent company/firm. Persistance is key. Good luck bro.

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vrahnos
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Like they say it's not what you know, it's who you know.

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Allannn
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Most people i know that have graduated with degrees of that nature are head hunting right now(odd) - the others went back to school for a masters, law degree, etc... I'd say suck it up and move to a bigger city. I had to move for work right after school and everything worked out really well, just gotta put your balls out there sometimes. There are way more opportunities in bigger cities.


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Pett
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make your resume one page

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djwright
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quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
The communication program at WWU is the second-most competitive in the university. (The most competitive is the Woodring School of Education, followed closely by the Industrial Design program.) There were 13,000 students enrolled this past year. The communication program allows about 450 students at a time. The average applicant has to apply three times before getting into the program. I got in on my first shot because I had the benefit of an existing student mentor that told me how to put my portfolio together. My portfolio was 72 pages long including my application, resume, letter of interest, four writing samples, three letters of reccomendation, and an essay on what I thought made me a viable candidate for the program.

If you think communication is a bullshit major, think again. The two most sought-after skills in the American workforce today are communication skills and computer skills, in that order. Why? Because other majors don't require that students know anything about how to communicate effectively with other people. (Business majors at most major universities aren't even required to take ethics courses, so I find it hard to believe that anyone could find anything bad to say about a communication major.)

Do you even know what a communication major does to get their degree? I've yet to run into someone who calls it a bullshit major that even knows what it takes to finish the program.

I apologize for coming out on the defensive, but if you had just spent two years of your life studying things that most of the rest of this country doesn't even understand only to be told to go back to college, you'd be pretty fucking irked about it. One of my final papers for my degree was 53 pages on the influences of residence hall life on the social and educational development of college students in the United States, for the love of God. There are no studies on that. I had to develop my own surveys... conduct my own interviews... I did it my fucking self. I didn't sit in the library and piggy-back on someone else's research. If you know someone else who has done that for their Bachelor's degree, please tell me. Otherwise, think before you post something stupid.


if its so spiffy why hasent some super communications firm scooped you up


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occrider
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quote:
Originally posted by Pettiscool
make your resume one page


Definetely. Two pages coming out of college??? That would go right into the trash bin. Christ, I've had 2 jobs and 4/5 years of experience, and I couldn't fill a second page. The only time you should ever have more than one page is if you have a curriculum vitae.

By the way, two weeks is nothing. Your job search will probably take several months.


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igottaknow
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Registered: Feb 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by djwright
if its so spiffy why hasent some super communications firm scooped you up

He should save that 'communication major is so hard' speech for the job interview. I'm sure that part about writing long papers will have them on their knees. hehehe
quote:
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Definetely. Two pages coming out of college??? That would go right into the trash bin. ...

By the way, two weeks is nothing. Your job search will probably take several months.

right on both counts. btw it took me 3+ months to land my first job after college.

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euphoria
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Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Pettiscool
make your resume one page


Quite impossible for me....I have been working for about 8 years now. Never went to college but have tons of experience working in various positions so I never really had a problem. Its hard enough keeping my resume down to 2 pages.


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Trancealot
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Registered: Mar 2001
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I am in the same boat!!
I went to job fairs/monster/craig's list did it all!
I graduated this semester from a pretty good school SUNY binghamton top SUNY in NY. Now after applying over 100 places past several months I got contacted the interview is today at 3pm! Let's fucking hope I get this because I don't want to be down on my luck anymore. The pay is fine(12-14/hr) because I am at the bottom but where did every engineer start at 50,000! Those are the college kids with exp(intern) already and thats not me so I am fine but after 3pm today I will find out if I got this job! In the end if you got no exp during college it is LUCK! and just keep on applying even to jobs that says work exp required just hope for entry level and theuir nice whoever hires you!

-Also I knew people that knew they had jobs in OCT of their seior year.
-People who knew they had jobs that started in oct after they graduated and got sent to Europe to be trained
-People who got siging bounses for a compnay (5k)

those are lucky people and I am not one of them but I hope to get this job no matter what so I can start my work exp!


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