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josh4
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: New York City

shortage pandemic? what shortage pandemic? please explain

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Classy...and yes, a wiki is a wonderful source.

i didnt say wonderful, i said better, and in relation to the first one. maybe you'd prefer snopes

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NeoPhono
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Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by josh4
shortage pandemic? what shortage pandemic? please explain



No problem.

We're reaching a point where either one of two things happens;

1. We're not physically able to pump enough fossil fuels out of the ground to meet the energy demands (home, commercial, automotive) of the world, especially with a rapidly modernizing China, making things uneconomical for the average consumer. That most easily can be seen with rising energy prices in such places as California (well, most of the US for that matter) and gasoline prices. Europe has always had high gas prices, but the US hasn't and as Americans get pissed about something, usually change occurs.

So in short, it becomes no longer economically acceptable for the consumer to rely on fossil fuels.

2. We reach a point where our current energy production is limited physically. We find that we have a physical lack of fossil fuels, photo cells, nuclear plants, etc. Even if we had the money, we'd find we are not able to meet our energy needs. This in the short term would also drive up energy prices, until there was nothing left to buy.


So in the end, either due to high energy prices on existing means of production, or due to a physical lack of the elements needed in energy production, we will have an energy shortage either percieved or real. Once this happens, we will see our attention focused onto this area. In my opinion this will happen when US gas prices reach the $5.00 level.

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DrUg_Tit0
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Zagreb, Croatia

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So in the end, either due to high energy prices on existing means of production, or due to a physical lack of the elements needed in energy production, we will have an energy shortage either percieved or real. Once this happens, we will see our attention focused onto this area. In my opinion this will happen when US gas prices reach the $5.00 level.


Just wondering, what are your current gas prices at the stations?


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NeoPhono
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Just wondering, what are your current gas prices at the stations?


Right now the lowest grade is on average about $2.10 to $2.20 here in central Ohio. Some places are selling for as high as $2.29. Unfortuantely, my car only takes premium, so add 20 cents to that to find out how much I pay.

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DrUg_Tit0
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Right now the lowest grade is on average about $2.10 to $2.20 here in central Ohio. Some places are selling for as high as $2.29. Unfortuantely, my car only takes premium, so add 20 cents to that to find out how much I pay.


Here it's about 4.75$/gallon for my leaded super 98. Grr, why doesn't EU create a strong military and invade some oil rich country!?


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Moongoose
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Celje, Slovenia

Becouse the US would just make up a stupic common good excuse and take 99% of it and we would be right back where we started

BTW on OMV pumps we now get 100 for the same price as 98 woohoo


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Becouse the US would just make up a stupic common good excuse and take 99% of it and we would be right back where we started

BTW on OMV pumps we now get 100 for the same price as 98 woohoo


Really? We don't have 100 anywhere. 98 is the best you can buy. And as far as OMV pumps go, they used to have much higher quality gasoline than INA pumps, but then they realized the law wasn't obligating them to use such a high quality fuel, so they started adding a bit of water to it to minimize the costs and now their fuel sucks way more than that of INA.


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Moongoose
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We were kind of surprised to that OMV started offering 100 becouse it happened practicaly overnight, but the fact that the price was the same completely blew me away And considering that i like to rev my car really high it was wery good news for me

Im preety sure that no such law exists here either but OMV still offers the best fuel. But it was a good bussines move for them, i see more and more cars on their pumps so i guess it pays off


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