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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

quote:
"Executive Order No. 11490 is real, and only the lack of a
crisis big enough, a president willing enough, and a public
aroused enough to permit it to be invoked, separates us from a
possible dictatorship, brought about under current law, waiting to
be implemented in the event of circumstances which can be
construed as a `national emergency.'"

http://www.skepticfiles.org/socialis/fema_law.htm



that article was written almost 15 years ago, btw

Old Post Jul-10-2005 06:19  United States
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kush paintings
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Trancer-X, although I have nothing but contempt for conspiracy theorists, I will go through the link you have provided to better learn where you are comming from and perhaps learn a thing or two. The problem I find, is the lack of trust I place in many sources that so called "truth crusaders" allude to. I realize that mainstream media is not reliable, therefore making it difficult to trust them too, but I would first place my trust somewhere that I at least know people are checking up on stories assuring their validity. If you have the time and are willing to educate, give me more "solid" sources, or at least tell me why I should trust the ones you have given me. In the mean time, I will try to read the links you have given me.


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Trancer-X
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http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/sp030311.shtml




http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/di...13157/index.php

http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum...f=23&i=112&t=86

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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



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Location: Shambhala

quote:
Originally posted by kush paintings
Trancer-X, although I have nothing but contempt for conspiracy theorists, I will go through the link you have provided to better learn where you are comming from and perhaps learn a thing or two. The problem I find, is the lack of trust I place in many sources that so called "truth crusaders" allude to. I realize that mainstream media is not reliable, therefore making it difficult to trust them too, but I would first place my trust somewhere that I at least know people are checking up on stories assuring their validity. If you have the time and are willing to educate, give me more "solid" sources, or at least tell me why I should trust the ones you have given me. In the mean time, I will try to read the links you have given me.


Don't go out of your way or anything. I mean, it's cool to be ignorant, right?

If it's not too much of a bother, maybe you could check out Congressman McDermott's query in the post below yours.

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Trancer-X
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http://villagevoice.com/news/0236,hentoff,38006,6.html

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/12/302870.html

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5675992/site/newsweek/



http://www.fas.org/sgp/index.html

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Trancer-X
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now signing up for gov list #30948097403408

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2...21/byrdremarks/

http://www.savethemales.ca/000834.html

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Trancer-X
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http://www.wired.com/news/politics/...n_story_related

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venomX
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Vancouver, Canada

omg man too much material
slow down

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shaolin_Z
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Re: now signing up for gov list #30948097403408

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2...21/byrdremarks/

http://www.savethemales.ca/000834.html


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Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
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metalgearsolid
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Registered: Apr 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Keep in mind how the masses have been manipulated throughout all of recorded history. When are people going to finally wake up? Probably not as long as there are knuckleheads like metalgearsolid, content to be sitting at home playing some stupid video game while the fate of his country (along with everyone's personal freedoms) could be in jeopardy.

I just find it funny how more people don't question what happens in our government. I mean, Congress wasn't even told until a while later that a shadow government had been put into place - so what makes you so certain that we the people will never be tricked into being brainwashed and/or rounded up, like the Germans were in Nazi Germany?


Hey don't you ever insult videogames

Yea I don't care anymore Trancer-X there will never be a time when I will know the truth and neither will you. You can go to all those websites and seriously belief that just because their not fox or cnn means their realible but that is not the case. Information is being giving many tweaks even the ones on the internet because they need to make money or they believe that somehow this will bring the truth out. But it won't and the truth will never be told by the Government and as long as the Government doesn't talk; the truth will never be known.

Ever since FDR signed the "New Deal" that was the beginning of the end for us. We will have to wait and see what happens in the future..

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quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Keep in mind how the masses have been manipulated throughout all of recorded history. When are people going to finally wake up? Probably not as long as there are knuckleheads like metalgearsolid, content to be sitting at home playing some stupid video game while the fate of his country (along with everyone's personal freedoms) could be in jeopardy.

I just find it funny how more people don't question what happens in our government. I mean, Congress wasn't even told until a while later that a shadow government had been put into place - so what makes you so certain that we the people will never be tricked into being brainwashed and/or rounded up, like the Germans were in Nazi Germany?



Third time writing this so I am going to make this shorter

1) never diss videogames

2) the truth will never be known by me or you

3) Information on the internet can't always be realiable just becasue they are not fox or cnn.

4) The truth is only known by the government and as long as the government doesn't talk we will never know the truth.

5) that Bullshit on the shadow government is nothing new they have been there for over 50yrs.

6) Our liberties have been going down hill since FDR signed the 'new deal'

7) We are at the American version of the nazis rounding up ppl. Do you seriously believe that the American government doesn't kill its own citizens for seeing something they shouldn't have seen?

8) its that thing about our government we think we are free their for we don't question thats what the US government probably wanted all along.

9) I will be waiting for your response till then see you later.

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Trancer-X, easy on the tone, I was agreeing to read your articles, even though I have a load of stuff to do. My life doesn't revovle around checking out articles of sources I have no idea are credible or not. ONCE AGAIN: tell me why I should believe these sources you have provided.

That being said I read the article on Executive Order 1149. I am still trying to find out who wrote the article and exactly how reliable the site was that it was published on.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.co...tive_orders.htm

This, very similar site provides not only the same article, but even a nice summary of all the Executive Orders. If you browse around the site you will see the people who run this a two fries short of a happy meal.

There are some articles written on there that are just downright slanderous. However, I am intrigued with what you are presenting so, I only ask for your help to show that the authors and sources you have provided are to be trusted.


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