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Originally posted by LuNaSeA LOL! you're serious too, aren't you? talk to me when you're 50- or rather, Try to talk to me bc you won't be able to hear yourself talk without your hearing aid hunney it's not like you're blocking the music when you wear earplugs- it's more like you're nixing out the really high frequences and some of the decibels that are too loud that will most definitely, 100% positively cause hearing loss in the Very near future. it's called preventative medicine, young sith, and you have a Lot to learn. anyways, earplugs are a necessity. i'm looking forward to getting my custom made ones before i hit ibiza. if you do some more research (sorry, i dont have any links right this moment), you will see that at a general rock concert, the "safe" level is only 4 minutes listening time. FOUR MINUTES. think about how much time we spend in clubs? longest i ever clubbed was at twilo for a straight 12 hours. what a horrible feeling that "cotton in my ears" symptom was. for DAYS it lasted..scary.. and the ringing? that's hearing loss in the works. look it up if you dont believe me. i'm just glad i learned the wonders of earplugs soon after i began clubbing. people don't even notice you have them in, and when they do they mostly tell you what a great thing it is, you come home without ringing in your ears and guess what? you can hear the music just as well as if you didn't have them in. if you think you can't enjoy clubbing with earplugs in, that's a sad state of affairs, n00b. and i truly hope you were just joking, for your own sake.

LOL "young sith"? "n00b"?...i love your references!! May i remind u i am not 20 years old but 30...and may i remind you that i have been partying since i was 14 in 1989. So i am sorry...the young sith is, um, who?

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Originally posted by LuNaSeA EVERY SINGLE CLUB. EVERYONE SINGLE ONE.

stereo u stay for 14 hours and ur ears come out clean like a whistle.best cllub in north america w00t.

and so do ur joints cause the dance floor ha its own suspension

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

The """"ONLY"""""" time i had problems with my ears after clubbing was when i went to Tiesto at The World in 2001....besides that?...never once had ringing or any other problems...maybe i have ears that can tolerate it...who knows.

Cus i never had a problem at The Tunnel, Roxy, Exit, Factory, Saci, Twilo, Limelight, Palladium, Nells, The Vault, Life, Metropolis, Avalon (Boston), DnA, Shelter, NASA, Glow or any other place...just that one time at World.

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Bring back 1994 NYC clubbing nights, cus the sh*t today is filled with junk parties and DJs that play sh*t House.....Zabiela, Sander, or Howells and all the rest suck and couldnt throw a night like it was in the early 90s in NYC!!!...Screw Twilo - give me Limelight circa 1993!!!

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Originally posted by tiesto14 The """"ONLY"""""" time i had problems with my ears after clubbing was when i went to Tiesto at The World in 2001....besides that?...never once had ringing or any other problems...maybe i have ears that can tolerate it...who knows. Cus i never had a problem at The Tunnel, Roxy, Exit, Factory, Saci, Twilo, Limelight, Palladium, Nells, The Vault, Life, Metropolis, Avalon (Boston), DnA, Shelter, NASA, Glow or any other place...just that one time at World.

no, your ears cannot handle it, Mr. Bionic. it's because you're Used to it that you don't notice the ringing or 'cotton ear' syndrome. and if you really don't get ringing, that doesn't mean that your hearing is OK. it's only a matter of time before the long term hearing loss effects take place from all your clubbing and excessive sound level experiences. make a consultation with a hearing doctor if you dont believe me i'm pretty sure they will say the same things I said here..

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Originally posted by nchs09 stereo u stay for 14 hours and ur ears come out clean like a whistle.best cllub in north america w00t.

doesn't matter. as long as the sound is above a certain decibel level for a certain period of time and longer, ur hearing will be damaged- what i dont get is how so many people think that only "bad" sound systems will damage your hearing.. your hearing gets damaged by LOUD SOUNDS, so it doesn't matter how "clean" the system is.

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Originally posted by LuNaSeA doesn't matter. as long as the sound is above a certain decibel level for a certain period of time and longer, ur hearing will be damaged- what i dont get is how so many people think that only "bad" sound systems will damage your hearing.. your hearing gets damaged by LOUD SOUNDS, so it doesn't matter how "clean" the system is.

AH!! the ear plug nazi!

jk but i think that is whats up with stereo. they dont put the decibels higher than what they are needed or some shit i heard. maybe the person who told me made it up ask bree she dragged me to stereo one night and she stayed longer than me .

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Originally posted by tiesto14 ....besides that?...never once had ringing or any other problems...maybe i have ears that can tolerate it...who knows.

Good for you! Unfortunately you seem to be unable to appreciate your hearing while it still remains (relatively) intact. Maybe you'll feel differently in a few years or decades, when you'd give anything to stop the constant annoying ringing in your ears. Or maybe you really have ears that can tolerate frequent exposure to loud noises; it's only you who will find out, and only you who will have to deal with the consequences.

Knowing that I can listen to the music I love without damaging my hearing is something that makes clubbing even more enjoyable for me.

Of course you don't have to use earplugs/condoms/seatbelts if they make you feel uncomfortable in any way. As long as you realize the risks and long-term effects associated with your decision.

Points of Reference *measured in dBA or decibels

0 The softest sound a person can hear with normal hearing

10 normal breathing

20 whispering at 5 feet

30 soft whisper

50 rainfall

60 normal conversation

110 shouting in ear (this is where a typical club measures at, see below)

120 thunder


Home
50 refrigerator

50 - 60 electric toothbrush

50 - 75 washing machine

50 - 75 air conditioner

50 - 80 electric shaver

55 coffee percolator

55 - 70 dishwasher

60 sewing machine

60 - 85 vacuum cleaner

60 - 95 hair dryer

65 - 80 alarm clock

70 TV audio

70 - 80 coffee grinder

70 - 95 garbage disposal

75 - 85 flush toilet

80 pop-up toaster

80 doorbell

80 ringing telephone

80 whistling kettle

80 - 90 food mixer or processor

80 - 90 blender

80 - 95 garbage disposal

110 baby crying

110 squeaky toy held close to the ear

135 noisy squeeze toys

Work
40 quiet office, library

50 large office

65 - 95 power lawn mower

80 manual machine, tools

85 handsaw

90 tractor

90 - 115 subway

95 electric drill

100 factory machinery

100 woodworking class

105 snow blower

110 power saw

110 leafblower

120 chain saw, hammer on nail

120 pneumatic drills, heavy machine

120 jet plane (at ramp)

120 ambulance siren

125 chain saw

130 jackhammer, power drill

130 air raid

130 percussion section at symphony

140 airplane taking off

150 jet engine taking off

150 artillery fire at 500 feet

180 rocket launching from pad
Recreation

40 quiet residential area

70 freeway traffic

85 heavy traffic, noisy restaurant

90 truck, shouted conversation

95 - 110 motorcycle

100 snowmobile

100 school dance, boom box

110 disco obviously clubs are a variable depending on how loud the system goes/can go and how loud the DJ plays...

110 busy video arcade

110 symphony concert

110 car horn

110 -120 rock concert

112 personal cassette player on high

117 football game (stadium)

120 band concert

125 auto stereo (factory installed)

130 stock car races

143 bicycle horn

150 firecracker

156 capgun

157 balloon pop

162 fireworks (at 3 feet)

163 rifle

166 handgun

170 shotgun

Presbycusis - this hearing loss is caused by natural ageing of the human body and begins after age 20, but often it is not noticed until the ages of 55 to 65. Presbycusis affects the high frequencies in the speech range, making understanding and hearing speech difficult.


A typical conversation occurs at 60 dB - not loud enough to cause damage.

A bulldozer that is idling (note that this is idling, not actively bulldozing) is loud enough at 85 dB that it can cause permanent damage after only 1 work day (8 hours).

When listening to music on earphones at a standard volume level 5, the sound generated reaches a level of 100 dB, loud enough to cause permanent damage after just 15 minutes per day!

A clap of thunder from a nearby storm (120 dB) or a gunshot (140-190 dB, depending on weapon), can both cause immediate damage.



Continuous dB Permissible Exposure Time
85 dB 8 hours
88 dB 4 hours
91 dB 2 hours
94 dB 1 hour
97 dB 30 minutes
100 dB 15 minutes
103 dB 7.5 minutes
106 dB 3.75 min (< 4min)
109 dB 1.875 min (< 2min)
112 dB .9375 min (~1 min)
115 dB .46875 min (~30 sec)

To Learn More:

http://dangerousdecibels.org


http://www.howstuffworks.com/question124.htm

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Last edited by LuNaSeA on Jul-14-2005 at 18:30

lol paranoia, paranoia, paranoia, paranoia!!!!!!

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So Lunasea

I suppose you are a non smoking, 100% drug and alcohol free, 4 days a week at the gym, vegetarian?

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Bring back 1994 NYC clubbing nights, cus the sh*t today is filled with junk parties and DJs that play sh*t House.....Zabiela, Sander, or Howells and all the rest suck and couldnt throw a night like it was in the early 90s in NYC!!!...Screw Twilo - give me Limelight circa 1993!!!

Oh let's not forget the adverse effects on the body that lack of sleep can cause.....how do u go clubbing on fridays after working all day? Ya know in the long run that might cause some health problems. Oh wait u sleep during the day...well u do know that lack of sunlight can cause depression and anxiety. Talk about a catch22!!

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Bring back 1994 NYC clubbing nights, cus the sh*t today is filled with junk parties and DJs that play sh*t House.....Zabiela, Sander, or Howells and all the rest suck and couldnt throw a night like it was in the early 90s in NYC!!!...Screw Twilo - give me Limelight circa 1993!!!