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davemolina
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Registered: May 2005
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True!!!

Since mixing harmonically, I've found it easier to gauge what key is currently in play. Whenever I mix with someone in tandem, I compare the song they've put on to a track I have. I see what key it is and go from there.

Kind of like..."Hey, that track sounds like this one. This track is in C minor. I can play a C minor and it won't sound off!!!"

It really does help me progress musically.


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Rhue
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A follow up Question:

There are already softwares out there which can Key a track for us (mixshare providing a free one). Now my question is that the Keys do change as the track progresses, so which one do you choose (the one being detected in the body or climax?). I know Armin writes down the bpm and keys of his records, but can't figure out how you guys decide which key defines the track as it keeps changing.


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Ste
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Yeah, but that is like learning mathematics by trial and error. Sure it will work but you're taking the looooooonnnnnnggggg way. Truth be told harmonic mixing is not a very daunting task. It is quite simple to do, so it makes my life much easier.

You may have the hours to spend mixing your new tracks against the entirety of your standing collection, but I like to know what I'm mixing will sound good the first time not the third time.



but you dont buy your whole collection at once, do you? it doesnt take three mixes to realise a mix sounds shit - or it shouldnt anyway. besides - mathematics is all about practice anyway

it doesnt take that long to play a lot of your records when you're starting out and as you get new records you move on and hammer them loads anyway, so you easily build up your knowledge of your tracks over time.

coz at the end of the day, an mix in key will half of the time not be good anyway due to track structures etc.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Rhue
Now my question is that the Keys do change as the track progresses, so which one do you choose (the one being detected in the body or climax?). I know Armin writes down the bpm and keys of his records, but can't figure out how you guys decide which key defines the track as it keeps changing.


i might be well wrong, but most (tho not all) tracks keep the same key all the way thru. if its a song that does have a key change, id work out what the key is at the point where youd mix it in/out.

as far as general harmonic mixing goes, in my experience it makes EQing WAY WAY easier. beatmatching too. if youve got the patience to key your whole collection, do it (it can be quite fun too). if youre a newcomer id say definitely start keying your tracks, so you dont ever have to do 100+ records coz you started too late.

my 2 cents.


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