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DOOMBOT
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I love the people who think the skill in DJing comes from manipulating the vinyl once in a while.

That isn't what this thread is about, so why cause it to be?

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SYSTEM-J
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Yes it is. People think that some of the art is lost when a DJ starts playing CDs instead of vinyl- you see angry letters in music magazines all the time.

The fact is that the only difference is you have to press buttons for CDs, instead of dragging the record back and forth a bit. The skill in DJing is mental, not physical, which people don't seem to realise. Trance/house DJs almost never use turntablism, so the set will sound exactly the same.

Interesting fact: women are naturally better at DJing. Their brains are evolved to hear several different sources of sound simultaneously, where as men tend to be able to only focus on one thing at a time.


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DOOMBOT
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"Ok I dont want to make a new debate/war about vinyl vs. cd.
Just want to know the a-list DJs who have stopped playing from vinyl in the last time."


Quoted from the thread starter. I suggest you go HERE.

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Re: DJs who arent playing from vinyl anymore

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Originally posted by DJ_Hailstone
Ok I dont want to make a new debate/war about vinyl vs. cd.
Just want to know the a-list DJs who have stopped playing from vinyl in the last time.
I will start


  • John '00' Flemming
  • Sasha
  • Dave Clarke
  • Judge Jules
  • Pete Tong
  • Erick Morillo
  • Paul van Dyk



[*]I hear chewbacca doesn't use vinyl these days


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Interesting fact: women are naturally better at DJing. Their brains are evolved to hear several different sources of sound simultaneously, where as men tend to be able to only focus on one thing at a time.


does that also mean we can't differentiate between multiple sounds being played at the same time and thus can't produce as well?


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anyways, yeh. Deep Dish is pretty much ALL CD now.


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DOOMBOT
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On June 10th Armins plane got redirected to DC when he was supposed to be in NYC so he ended up only using cd's when he finally made it to the club. Flame him!!!!!!!!

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The reason why most DJs stop playing vinyl is generally because they were never very good at playing vinyl in the first place. Ergo, they don't miss it when they switch to something else, and the new equipment probably gives them some added skills and techniques that they didn't have the aptitude to accomplish with vinyl anyway, so it's a step up for them to be better DJs.

REAL vinyl disc jockeys who have plied their trade for years and are exceptionally good at what they do will still cling to the artform. After spending that much time practising and honing your personal flavour on a specific aparatus, would you want to immediately throw it all away?

That is why you see trance and house DJs flocking to digital, because it neither disrupts nor interferes with the way they DJ. But I have yet to see one hip hop DJ carry around a laptop and Ableton.

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DOOMBOT
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The reason why most DJs stop playing vinyl is generally because they were never very good at playing vinyl in the first place. Ergo, they don't miss it when they switch to something else, and the new equipment probably gives them some added skills and techniques that they didn't have the aptitude to accomplish with vinyl anyway, so it's a step up for them to be better DJs.

REAL vinyl disc jockeys who have plied their trade for years and are exceptionally good at what they do will still cling to the artform. After spending that much time practising and honing your personal flavour on a specific aparatus, would you want to immediately throw it all away?

That is why you see trance and house DJs flocking to digital, because it neither disrupts nor interferes with the way they DJ. But I have yet to see one hip hop DJ carry around a laptop and Ableton.

Sasha, Paul van Dyk, Ferry Corsten. All excellent at mixing with vinyl. I could name more. Now get the hell outta this thread with your crap.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
The reason why most DJs stop playing vinyl is generally because they were never very good at playing vinyl in the first place. Ergo, they don't miss it when they switch to something else, and the new equipment probably gives them some added skills and techniques that they didn't have the aptitude to accomplish with vinyl anyway, so it's a step up for them to be better DJs.

REAL vinyl disc jockeys who have plied their trade for years and are exceptionally good at what they do will still cling to the artform. After spending that much time practising and honing your personal flavour on a specific aparatus, would you want to immediately throw it all away?

That is why you see trance and house DJs flocking to digital, because it neither disrupts nor interferes with the way they DJ. But I have yet to see one hip hop DJ carry around a laptop and Ableton.


And Hawtin?

Don't get me wrong, I hate how Sasha is being all pretentious with his Ableton shit when he's not really doing anything special. Wow, 5 sound sources at the same time, that's so amazing! Not.


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Ishkur
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I'm glad you brought him up.....Hawtin belligerantly despised and refused the new wave of digital decks in the late 90s (there are TONS of articles he wrote about this) unless it specifically replicated the feel and skillset of vinyl DJing (in other words--something that played to his strengths, so his vinyl skills would not feel obsolete and wasted). Though Final Scratch is a digital aparatus, it comes closest to capturing the essence of the real thing, and Hawtin and Acquaviva's endorsement, input and feedback, working with the development team during its construction, speaks well the care and quality that went into the thing.

In short, Final Scratch was literally built with vinyl DJs in mind, spurned along and aided by the best vinyl DJs on the planet.

Everything else is built to make ordinary DJ's (you know...the wedding and bar mitzvah kind) lives easier and more automatic.

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Ishkur
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quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Sasha, Paul van Dyk, Ferry Corsten. All excellent at mixing with vinyl.


If you really think they're excellent mixers....you really haven't seen a lot of terribly good DJs.

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