bunch of fucking tools...

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Originally posted by rob_sardellitti bunch of fucking tools...

Excuse me, mister "if it becomes popular I move on"..

Do you realize your tastes are affected by the masses and the media as much as everybody else here?

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My take on... (various mixes planned, updated when I can be arsed)

The problem is that what I, or if you may "we" find 'good' is most of the time not really material for the charts. The charts play popmusic, trance isn't if you make trance so that it's chartfit it moves more to popmusic and less to trance so someone who likes trance won't like it anymore.

And then you have the problem with 'classics' for some reason people tend to see it as a good thing if a song get's 'classic' status in trance. Mind that it were always the more chatchy yes with less complex emotion pieaces that became classic, out of the blue, syastheasia, the beaty of silence, airwave etc.

It's a but ignorant still arrogant to say that trance escapes what happens in popmusic, the higher a song ends up in the charts, the more catchy yet less complex the emotions in the song are. Sure, trance is a lot more dramatic and has a lot more complex emotions than popmusic but it's always the catchy and less complex stuff that apeals to most people in the trance scence.

I think I can savely say I'm more 'underground' than most people on this board, a good thing I don't know, So I prefer the complex psychological emotions of Arksun above the catchy melodies of Jonas Steur. Well, my loss really. If I liked Black Eyed Peas* I could just run into the local recordstore and get 'Don't phunk with my heart', Now I have to dig of all kinds of online sites, get a creditcard rspessicaly to buy Arksuns albums online. I need a vinyl player to play his singles etc.

The underground still remains a minority, It's far less interresting for radio stations and music channels to play the songs I like, or for record stores to sell them. Like what happened to ID&T Radio, I always thought It was a bit commercial but it went worse and worse. Now it's slam FM, never checked that really. Probably non stop cheese but I'm not sure of that.

You could bring up arguments like "Underground music provides more information for the brain to process thus it's better music." I did that for a time but you can't deny it, It doesn't matter it's just taste, I like a lot of information to my brain. Others don't. Underground people will continue to say that they're 'kvlt' because they are underground and mainstream people will say that they are 'cool' because they're hip. Quite easy to say that your own way is the best isn't it. Everyone says it, why should I be right and for a time I thought I was.

I like to be outcasted from society, to be a part of nothing.Call me underground or not, I call myself unfit as a human because there's something wrong with my insticts to be a part of something and thus reproduce. Sure, my thoughts just as from a lot of people who are underground come from reason over immitation. But that's where we are effectivly wrong, humans are life, we need to immitate to survive.

And I hate all live.

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Originally posted by kutvolkots I think I can savely say I'm more 'underground' than most people on this board, a good thing I don't know, So I prefer the complex psychological emotions of Arksun above the catchy melodies of Jonas Steur...

I don't think you'd know 'underground' if it hit you point blank in the face.

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Originally posted by kutvolkots the higher a song ends up in the charts, the more catchy yet less complex the emotions in the song are.

The dumbest thing i have ever heard.

So evry song that has got to number 1 ever has had absolutely no emotion.

STFU.

I didn't say that, I sad the emotions are less complex, you can't tell me that things like the ketchup song and jan wayne have complex emotions do you?

I never less that a less complex emotion was a less strong emotion.

I've got synastheasia, I can tell by the colours.

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Originally posted by kutvolkots I didn't say that, I sad the emotions are less complex, you can't tell me that things like the ketchup song and jan wayne have complex emotions do you? I never less that a less complex emotion was a less strong emotion. I've got synastheasia, I can tell by the colours.

Just because a couple of tracks that acutally have no emotion get to number 1 doesn't mean all the tracks in pop music history have no emotion.


Sinead O'Connor - 'Nothing Compares To You' has emotion overload and that got to number 1.

What the fuck is a "complex emotion"?

Ahah.

Arksun... underground.

Eheh.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally posted by Ory Ahah. Arksun... underground. Eheh.

have you ever been in a club, for a DJ?

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean have you ever been in a club, for a DJ?

What?

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.