Originally posted by CaTcH21
I dont think he was refering to YOU !
( OK i guess someone beat me in telling you )
guesswhat! i was born in joberg. yeah buddy! lived in edenvale in johannesburg for 11 years, then moved to canada. god i miss that country. where you at?
Jul-31-2005 09:53
Mike_Foyle
Two colours in my head
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Leicester, UK
Re: Reasons not to pay for music
quote:
Originally posted by Benno de Goeij
- dj's and producers make too much money in the first place
WHAT? is that really what you think?
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Jul-31-2005 09:57
Ste
Planet Zogg Addict
Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Outer Dementia
Re: Re: Reasons not to pay for music
quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
WHAT? is that really what you think?
i highly doubt he does - he is putting forward the opinion of a non-buyer makign excuses for himself.
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These days I get increasingly pissed off at people, especially on these boards, who download instead of paying. I spend hundreds and hundreds of pounds every year expanding my music collection, and to see people showing mis-labelled MP3s and saying "my favourite track ever" pisses me right off. You've no respect for the talent behind the music, and worse, you're not even getting your facts right. How can something be your favourite track ever if you can't even be bothered to pay for it?
i used to work in a music store.
this is the reality of the situation.
downloading music for free hardly effects sales.
what you hear in the press are extremities.
this does not make downloading good of course.
i stand in the gray area.
and nothing is free.
those people who install p2p, dramatically open their systems to malware.
ask any downloader.
90% of them have had major computer problems.
thing is they are so dumb they dont know where it came from.
or how it got there or even how to remove it.
ive seen kids computers so amped up with adware it wouldnt even function properly.
and i do charge them little shits to fix it.
owned.
then i get em to burn me a cd har.
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Jul-31-2005 20:01
WojiePoj
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Registered: Not Yet
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Hang on... is that the real Benno de Goeij?
These days I get increasingly pissed off at people, especially on these boards, who download instead of paying. I spend hundreds and hundreds of pounds every year expanding my music collection, and to see people showing mis-labelled MP3s and saying "my favourite track ever" pisses me right off. You've no respect for the talent behind the music, and worse, you're not even getting your facts right. How can something be your favourite track ever if you can't even be bothered to pay for it?
+1
Jul-31-2005 20:05
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
While it's true that illegal downloading increases legitimate sales, it still pisses me off. 90% of what I used to download I would then buy the album/EP/compilation for, and the other 10% I tended to delete. These days I haven't got any way of downloading anything anyway.
Originally posted by washout
i used to work in a music store.
this is the reality of the situation.
downloading music for free hardly effects sales.
what you hear in the press are extremities.
this does not make downloading good of course.
i stand in the gray area.
and nothing is free.
those people who install p2p, dramatically open their systems to malware.
ask any downloader.
90% of them have had major computer problems.
thing is they are so dumb they dont know where it came from.
or how it got there or even how to remove it.
ive seen kids computers so amped up with adware it wouldnt even function properly.
and i do charge them little shits to fix it.
owned.
then i get em to burn me a cd har.
Nice freeverse
Jul-31-2005 20:07
washout
southern white boy
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: florida
quote:
Originally posted by CleverName
Nice freeverse
thank you.
for not only noticing but telling me as well.
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Jul-31-2005 20:13
WojiePoj
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Location:
these all turn out to be the same in the end.....
Jul-31-2005 20:35
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by WojiePoj
these all turn out to be the same in the end.....
I don't see how Tiesto can in any way be involved in this one.
Downloading music is affecting the entire music industry as a whole, pop and edm. EDM is taking a bigger hit right now because we are not talking about millions of sales but rather hundreds and sometimes thousands.
How much does a EDM producer make? In general, 50% of profits. I'll give you a very realistic figure in how much that actually is.
Total Revenue: 822 x 3.25 EUR (This is how much Astral gives per vinyl) = 2671.50
Total Profit: 2671.50 EUR - 1588.95 EUR = 1082.50 EUR
Your Share (50%): 541.25 EUR
Note that this does not include any remix fees (if there are any). If you have a remix on the flip that happens to cost 500 euro (which is very common nowadays), you end up making next to nothing on the release.
So if you think there's a lot of money being made here, think again. Every time you download, you are hurting the artist more so than you can imagine.
