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DjHectorial
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Registered: May 2004
Location: London,Canada

sooooooo glad hockey is back, and well im not a huge TO fan at all, so this news dont disappoint me but seems to be like all TO teams they let go of all there good talent,

but in other words

GO PHILLLLY!!!!!!

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Dancing*Queen
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Kingston, Canada

I could look this up and read about it but I'm too lazy...so who did we pick up when they left?


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High on PSI
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada

They had good days as leafs, but they're expensive to keep with the new cap, and they're too old. The leafs need to get younger, so im hoping they'll pick up another strong and young centre.

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StereoPrincess
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Registered: May 2001
Location: SPFRI

quote:
Originally posted by Spike
leafs are thinking long term and are waist deep in crap this comming season....


dude, when have the leafs every think long term?

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StereoPrincess
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Registered: May 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Dancing*Queen
I could look this up and read about it but I'm too lazy...so who did we pick up when they left?


we? ha ha ha.


i didn't know you were a super leafs fan Karen.

that's it. now i have to start making fun of you.

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Irishaddict
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: St. Catharines

Kinda sad to see Roberts gone...

Like stated previously though, I wouldn't miss Domi. He's seriously overrated. And yeah, Domi has been talking to Pittsburgh. Probably to play Crosby's bodyguard on the first line, heh.

Naslund and Forsberg have the same agent and word is he's shopping them around together as they are both free agents this year. There was some talk of Toronto trying to pick up Forsberg to get a Forsberg/Sundin combination on the first line. Ferguson was meeting with his agent as of a couple weeks ago but issued the timeless 'no comment' when asked about the meetings by the press.

Overall, I'm kind of glad they shaved off some of the older guys. Toronto (and Quinn more specifically) have a penchant for keeping Toronto as an 'older' team and they were inevitably screwing themselves in the coming years as those guys retired and the new, younger talent still hadn't had enough ice experience past juniors. Stajan should get bumped from 4th line, Colaicovo should see a lot more games on D and players like Bell and Kilger (along with other farm team members) will get more ice time.

Looking forward to the season this year.


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house_conXion
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Do you know why you're here?

It is a sad day to see Roberts and Nieuwendyk go but to the prospect of picking up a superstar in the likes of Forsberg or Modano would make Toronto an awesome contender. Picking up Jeff O'Neill wasn't a bad move at all


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Dancing*Queen
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Kingston, Canada

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
we? ha ha ha.


i didn't know you were a super leafs fan Karen.

that's it. now i have to start making fun of you.



lol....damn I let the secret out

*prepares for your worst*


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Sly_Guy
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superstars in hockey are overrated.

Joe and Gary were tough and have heart. And heart goes a long way in the playoffs, whereas a close check can eliminate any 'superstar' advantage.


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Dufouria
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: windsor

it had to be done. I was pissed at first, but then again, how many cups have they won us? Time to get younger.

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Registered: Mar 2005
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quote:
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how many cups have they won us?


12.


1967 baby...YEAHHHHH!!!!!




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HouseJunkie
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Location: Barrie, Ontario

quote:
Originally posted by Sly_Guy
superstars in hockey are overrated.

Joe and Gary were tough and have heart. And heart goes a long way in the playoffs, whereas a close check can eliminate any 'superstar' advantage.


I see your point, but Forsberg is a proven playoff performer.

Roberts and Niewendyk were too rich for the Leafs' blood. With the new NHL Salary Cap being set at $40 million, the Leafs already had $15 million locked up in three players. Sundin ($6M), McCabe (3.5M), and a ridiculous $5M on a 41 year old Ed Belfour.

If the remaining players are to accept their qualifying offers, it only leaves $10M to spend on the rest of their roster (seven players). Roberts and Niewendyk were both demanding in the range of $2 - 2.5 M each, which would then leave them a grand total of $5 M to spend on five more players. This wouldn't even allow any wiggle room and would set them at the cap.

The Leafs are a team that really got beat up because of the Lockout and the new NHL structure. A mass exodus of talent (Mogilny, Leetch, & Nolan) leaves them in a hugely precarious position in terms of raw talent.

I say they need to add at least 2 more talented (scoring) forwards and a decent defenceman (let's say 2 forwards in the $2M range), and let some young talent (like Carlo Coliacovo and Matt Stajan) play a more prominent role on the team this year.

It's too bad, but they really got the short end of the stick with the new NHL structure.

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