Look at the needle and see if it's bent at all. The second sample sounds like mine did before I realized it was done for.

If that's not it I don't think there's any fixing your problem, I think you definitely got a bad needle (or you somehow damaged it w/out knowing). My suggestion would be to contact the people you bought your needle from and let them know of your problem. Don't let this discourage you from buying another White label, though, it's a great needle. Just keep in mind that there's never been a product introduced to the market that hasn't sold a faulty unit.

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The stylus seems fine to me. I'm really hesitant right now for buying another one or just the Ortofon. Thanks for that reply though, I think I can actually go to bed now haha.

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damn that sounds so bad... It's fubar fo sho. I had a m35s back in the day that sounded just like that. It was a defective cart as well. Of the 6 shure cartridges i bought over the years, i only had one that was bad out of the box. As for whitelabels, i own two, im only using one for recording. Both of mine sound great, but in my experience, the styli break very easily. Thus I'm using M44Gs the past 7 months and i love em more than the whitelabels.

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Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. He who laughs last thinks slowest!

The first pair of needles I ever bought were the Shure M44-7's. If you refuse to go with the Whitelabels, I highly recomment them. Yes, you will have to mount them to your technics headshells but it's not rocket science, trust me.

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This got me into critical listening AND RECORDING. I've recorded a track from a new record at 24/96 using both a m44g and whitelabel. When listening, i switched back and forth, i honestly couldn't hear any major difference. So i decided to go ahead and record from both carts and i've noticed noise like pops were in the opposite phase. This had me wondering, i quickly checked the wiring on my carts and tried two seperate whitelabels and m44gs and came with teh same results. I then took the left channel recordings and cropped them to match and replace the right channel with the left from the opposite cart to show you a side by side comparison.


listening to this in my headphones makes me go mad, but it does create a cool noise canceling and phazer effects when my earcups face each other.

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Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. He who laughs last thinks slowest!

HAHA Thats nuts.

Anyways I'm thinking about going down to my record store and just getting a replacement stylus. I'm going to ask them if I can return it the next day if it dosn't work. If it is the whole cartridge then I might get the M44-7 although I'm really liking the whole interchangeable stylus tips on the Ortofons though. I could buy a very basic model and then when that tip wears out I can buy a Nightclub or Elektro.

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just bring the cart down to the shop and see if you can check it out there.

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Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. He who laughs last thinks slowest!

Yeah, in a perfect world they could let me switch out for a new one or a diffrent needle.

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Well I just got back and they said I can't return needles no matter what. I'm going to call Shure tomorrow and see what they have to say though.

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Originally posted by colombian raver Well I just got back and they said I can't return needles no matter what. I'm going to call Shure tomorrow and see what they have to say though.

Thats jobbies!
Good luck with contacting Shure - I'm sure they'll help you out 100%

What was that you played?


And yeah sounds like a problem there.


But I do know a lot of people with Whitelabels without any problem but they are on the more fragile side it appears

The song thats playing is "Adam Johnson - Four Squares"

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