The stylus seems fine to me. I'm really hesitant right now for buying another one or just the Ortofon. Thanks for that reply though, I think I can actually go to bed now haha.

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damn that sounds so bad... It's fubar fo sho. I had a m35s back in the day that sounded just like that. It was a defective cart as well. Of the 6 shure cartridges i bought over the years, i only had one that was bad out of the box. As for whitelabels, i own two, im only using one for recording. Both of mine sound great, but in my experience, the styli break very easily. Thus I'm using M44Gs the past 7 months and i love em more than the whitelabels.

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Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. He who laughs last thinks slowest!

The first pair of needles I ever bought were the Shure M44-7's. If you refuse to go with the Whitelabels, I highly recomment them. Yes, you will have to mount them to your technics headshells but it's not rocket science, trust me.

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This got me into critical listening AND RECORDING. I've recorded a track from a new record at 24/96 using both a m44g and whitelabel. When listening, i switched back and forth, i honestly couldn't hear any major difference. So i decided to go ahead and record from both carts and i've noticed noise like pops were in the opposite phase. This had me wondering, i quickly checked the wiring on my carts and tried two seperate whitelabels and m44gs and came with teh same results. I then took the left channel recordings and cropped them to match and replace the right channel with the left from the opposite cart to show you a side by side comparison.


listening to this in my headphones makes me go mad, but it does create a cool noise canceling and phazer effects when my earcups face each other.

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Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. He who laughs last thinks slowest!

HAHA Thats nuts.

Anyways I'm thinking about going down to my record store and just getting a replacement stylus. I'm going to ask them if I can return it the next day if it dosn't work. If it is the whole cartridge then I might get the M44-7 although I'm really liking the whole interchangeable stylus tips on the Ortofons though. I could buy a very basic model and then when that tip wears out I can buy a Nightclub or Elektro.

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just bring the cart down to the shop and see if you can check it out there.

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Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. He who laughs last thinks slowest!

Yeah, in a perfect world they could let me switch out for a new one or a diffrent needle.

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Well I just got back and they said I can't return needles no matter what. I'm going to call Shure tomorrow and see what they have to say though.

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Originally posted by colombian raver Well I just got back and they said I can't return needles no matter what. I'm going to call Shure tomorrow and see what they have to say though.

Thats jobbies!
Good luck with contacting Shure - I'm sure they'll help you out 100%

What was that you played?


And yeah sounds like a problem there.


But I do know a lot of people with Whitelabels without any problem but they are on the more fragile side it appears

The song thats playing is "Adam Johnson - Four Squares"

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