I personally tend not to do this especially when it comes to my professionality. If it's some summer job then really who gives a fcuk, but if it's the career i'm working on then I'd rather not. UNLESS (and that's a big unless) you know that they'll be superb at that job and will make you look good for hiring them in the process. It's nothing personal...some of my friends are just astronauts and I wouldn't put my recommendation towards them for professional repuatation reasons. And similarly I wouldn't expect any of my friends to do that for me either.

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I got a friend a job last summer working for my company in my department. He was a shoe in, cause i basically told him what the interview was all about.

He got the job, kept it, and left after the summer(it was a summer term). My manager was very pleased, and asked if I had any more friends like him.

THe funny thing is, i think he worked harder so that it looked good on me, but since i was in charge of his work load, i just let him chill most of the summer, lol.

what a great summer

so i have always been in the situation where a friend puts in a good word for me and i get the job.

once was with my dad at the mine and i definitely had to work hard because word got around about all the workers kids and what kind of job they did. i had the job 3 years in a row which was the maximum you can have so that goes to show you that i made a good impression.

secondly, ray got me a job at the beer store warehouse and i definitely worked extra hard even when i was doing the shit job of sorting bottles.

i think that it really depends on the person.

ray got a job for a guy (which the guy fucked up by not showing up for a week and was eventually fired) and when ray was out of work and the guy was working construction and ray asked this friend to put in a good word, the guy flat out said "no, because i don't want to ruin my reputation at the company." Out of all people i know, ray is a good worker and gets along with people extremely well, there was no reason for this guy to think that ray would ruin his "rep" which was shit to begin with.

i also got another summer job through a friend and they were so impressed that they asked me to work through the year even for 2 hours after school.

and this is why i don't understand how a person can get a job through a friend and fuck that job up. don't you have any sort of morals?

Good point.

If a friend does help in getting a job - one better bust their ass and not make their friend look bad.

I don't care if the HR people say "Don't worry Sven - even though you brought us Hans to hire and Hans is a fuckup, we still think you're good" - rats live with rats - it will damage your reputation or at least put your reputation it into question.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker There is a BIG difference between giving advice/direction and pulling strings/making recommendations.

Agreed. I've forwarded a resume but make it clear to those in power, I'm not vouching for their business ability and work ethic. That is for them to decide, not me, as I am not responsible for them.

After seeing what Carlos went through, recommending some of his friends at the place he works at and seeing how some of them just fucked up so bad, i don't think there are many friends i would put a good word in for.

I don't understand how some people you assume are your friends can throw a good opportunity right back in your face by having complete disrespect for your boss or the work they're (supposed to be) doing. That really pisses me off.

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Originally posted by loca After seeing what Carlos went through, recommending some of his friends at the place he works at and seeing how some of them just fucked up so bad, i don't think there are many friends i would put a good word in for. I don't understand how some people you assume are your friends can throw a good opportunity right back in your face by having complete disrespect for your boss or the work they're (supposed to be) doing. That really pisses me off.

very true. you have to be careful who you suggest for a job. At any place where i have been employed, the manager has always asked if i knew good workers. I always have to tell them, i know workers, but not good ones. You have to be honest. I've had friends ask me for hook ups before, and I had to tell them no, straight out, cause they werent qualified. Its harsh, but its the best way to go.

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Originally posted by loca After seeing what Carlos went through, recommending some of his friends at the place he works at and seeing how some of them just fucked up so bad, i don't think there are many friends i would put a good word in for. I don't understand how some people you assume are your friends can throw a good opportunity right back in your face by having complete disrespect for your boss or the work they're (supposed to be) doing. That really pisses me off.

I'm with you. I wouldn't recommend or truly openly help many of my friends get a job, because while I want to be a good friend and help them out, I need to be concerned about myself as well. And I know that if many my friends got this job, he or she may fuck around despite the pull I had to use to get them the job -- they just wouldn't see a need to act on extra-better care just because a friend got them a job with his or her company/organization.

If they honestly tired of their job and all of a sudden decided they hated it within the first week or month or two, depsite the fact that I had gotten him or her the job, I could see them putting their self-interset ahead of my position and I could see them possibly even just up and walking off awway from the job.

Which would reflect HORRIBLY on me. It's because of worries like these I would not recommend friends. I would make them aware of the opportunity, so they could submit a resume and go through the normal hiring policy, but that's it. I'd not be vouching for them in any real sense.

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When I used to work for IKEA.. I once hooked a buddy up because he had hooked me up a while back with a job when I really needed it. It was a temp position that he hooked me up with... nevertheless, I did a really good job and I found a job after that on my own. Back to the story. So I hooked him up with a job at IKEA, not a great position but still it was a job and he needed one. Long story short, he got fired because they found out that not only was he smoking weed in a fire escape corridor, but he was also stealing from the store and to make matter's worse.. he was always late.

It did reflect badly on me for a while, but since I never really saw him in the store..nor hung out with him while at the store I was able to somewhat avoid association.

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Originally posted by Stilez When I used to work for IKEA.. I once hooked a buddy up because he had hooked me up a while back with a job when I really needed it. It was a temp position that he hooked me up with... nevertheless, I did a really good job and I found a job after that on my own. Back to the story. So I hooked him up with a job at IKEA, not a great position but still it was a job and he needed one. Long story short, he got fired because they found out that not only was he smoking weed in a fire escape corridor, but he was also stealing from the store and to make matter's worse.. he was always late. It did reflect badly on me for a while, but since I never really saw him in the store..nor hung out with him while at the store I was able to somewhat avoid association.

See, it's stuff like this that makes it so potentially unwise.

Because when they're doing this stuff, they're not thinking about "what if I'm caught -- how will this look on my friend who got me the job". People who you get jobs just generally dont seem to have that mentality when they make their decissions. It's like, I got the job now, what does it matter to you how I act at my job. And even if they don't feel that way, it always appears they think that way based on the way they act.

Then you get you get mad at them and tell them, and they seem to think YOU are overstepping your boundaries by giving them shit for their getting fired over something THEY did. Arg.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker 3 things you don't do with friends (worth keeping) and family: 1) loan money 2) do business (including getting them jobs) 3) fuck (literally or otherwise)

best advice ever (esp #2)
well for #1, I'd lent friends or family money, but as a help (I know it's a bad decision business wise)

only a couple of my friends I'd trust to do a good job. Most of my friends, I wouldn't even trust with a school assignment

ok... if I think they can do it, I'd help