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Originally posted by Miss Bliss There are two kinds of people on this board... you belong in the second group... with me and my bf as well... but PVD is still good for people who are starting out... hopefully they move on though... anyway I'm in Munich, what a city... what beer! ANYWAY BACK TO THE BAR

OK, i'm going to get backlash for this and to start, I'm not singling out Miss Bliss. Her post was just the straw that broke the camel's back today, but here goes:

You mean the "I hate trance" group on TRANCEaddict? The notion that trance is for the EDM n00bs is pretty elitist and I take a bit of offense to it. I mean, from past posts, I know that i like a lot of the same stuff as you and frost (Zabiela was #3 on my list of DJs this year, Desyn, some Howells, etc.), but I also like the trance DJs because sometimes I don't want bleepity-blippity tracks for 4-8 hours. I feel like both have their time and place. I find it really hard to close out a night at 7-8 AM with a proggy/techy DJ, as I'm usually too mentally exhausted to dance anymore (and I'm getting old). While I can appreciate the music that they're creating, it just isn't energetic enough sometimes. It's like the higher BPM of a trance DJ's set can keep your adrenaline pumping over a longer period of time.

I will add that I was disappointed with the Summerstage set, but I did love the April set at Crobar. As I said in my DJ list post, this was the worst set I've seen from him this year (NYE, Space@WMC, Crobar in April, CP) and I never could get into it completely. There are few sets that I've heard like Amnesia 2002 or Trance Energy 2003, but he has played some great sets even recently.

Sorry to rant and rave, but I got perturbed with this train of thought earlier today when people were telling DOOMBOT that he'd stop listening to trance after he was exposed to more, but that's simply not true in both his case, as he stated, and in mine.

It unfortunate that "our scene" is viewed by the general population as "Techno or Rave Music" because they can't tell the differences, yet we fight with each other over the subtleties that give us the plethora of genres that allow us each to find our own niche for the way we're feeling at the time. It's not like people on here are saying that Britney Spears, Hilary Duff, and the Backstreet Boys kick ass.

i don't care about genre to be honest. just get me to fucking DANCE. i make fun of doombot only because he glorifies AVB w/o giving a thought to others. i still respect the fact that it's his opinion

BUT

armin in june 05 and twice previously has made me DANCE
danny howells makes me DANCE
ferry has never disappointed and makes me DANCE
sasha makes me DANCE
pvd has made me DANCE
tiesto USED to make me DANCE
zabiela, JZ, the list goes on and on

my personal preferences have shifted towards more prog/electro/breaks recently, but a GOOD trance set once in a while doesn't hurt. actually i've been quite surprised at the decent trance sets (in my opinion of course) that i've heard this year.

read the FL review of PvD from Space just a few hours later...

much much much different reactions including those from former PvD bashers...

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=286708

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Originally posted by Miss Bliss There are two kinds of people on this board... you belong in the second group... with me and my bf as well... but PVD is still good for people who are starting out... hopefully they move on though...

Ok you are superior because you dislike trance and like house . its "cool" to like house and "chesee" to like trance

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you guys honestly thought it was bad/boring? i'm shocked. that was my second time seeing PvD and it only got better. i thought the show was amazing, including flawless mixing and great track selection. you guys are too critical.

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Originally posted by punjabi you guys honestly thought it was bad/boring? i'm shocked. that was my second time seeing PvD and it only got better. i thought the show was amazing, including flawless mixing and great track selection. you guys are too critical.

for reference to great track selection, see the politics of dancing 1. this comes nowhere close, and nothing has imo. yeah i'm being critical

Last edited by trunks1022 on Aug-23-2005 at 05:24

see what you started colibri

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I think his SS set sucked. Last year was much better. Could be bc I'm not really into Trance anymore, but I thought it was boring, except when he played those few techy tracks. His mixing also went downhill, it wasn't creative and he always did the same transitions. I must say, him playing keys on some tracks was a nice touch though...

From what I heard in the 2 hours I was there, from the 3 PvD shows I attended this year this one falls 3rd. Maybe he just performs better in a club setting. Or maybe he was tired. Cubik, CP, then Space in a 2 day span. I'm not gonna knock the guy for it. He still had me jumpin around all over the place at CP and thats all that matters to me. But he still helped prove to me that AvB is still the best.

Maybe he was better in the 90s

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