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josh4
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Culture.

This reminds me of a study I once read about. They wanted to find out why certain minority groups do so well in college and why certain ones do so bad. The study concluded it was mostly a factor of culture. For instance the study found some middle easterners and asian groups tend to stick together and develop their own supportive social rings. These groups also encourage each other to do well in school and help each other when someone is not. They study together in large groups and challenge each other's ideas. This hit home for me because its really true! If you walk around the library of any university during finals you're going to see these ethnic groups of people. They're usually huddled together yelling at each other with their text books open.

All this is contrary to what the study found for other minority groups, such as african americans. That group in particular tends to do poorly because its not based on a supportive social group like the others. The people in it are less social, less encouraged to do well, more based on an individual structure, and study alone rarely seeking outside help. This however does not go for all african americans, mostly just the ones that are descendant from the slaves. The blacks that come over directly from africa follow more closely to the group social structure.

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HardTranceProd
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quote:
Originally posted by josh4
african americans. . The people in it are less social,


African Americans are the most social people I have ever met. They're very relaxed, charming, down-to-earth, and smooth, in complete contrast to whites who are extremely uptight.

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josh4
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African Americans are the most social people I have ever met. They're very relaxed, charming, down-to-earth, and smooth, in complete contrast to whites who are extremely uptight.

not in a class room setting.

i was just describing what i remember from the study as best i could. i dont want this to turn into a racial argument thing with smiley eventually coming in calling me anti muslim.

ps check your pms stop taking so long to reply

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Josh, I really agree with your points on culture. It seems African American culture is centered on entertainment, that is the desire of the young to be entertainers. Whereas, I believe Asians have more realistic goals.


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metalgearsolid
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Josh, I really agree with your points on culture. It seems African American culture is centered on entertainment, that is the desire of the young to be entertainers. Whereas, I believe Asians have more realistic goals.

But you do have to be thankful of black people after all they were the ones who created rock and roll so a white artist could just copy it and call himself "King of Rock and Roll."

Anyways Asians are doing better because of competition they are used to doing back in home.

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HardTranceProd
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One thing is for sure, African Americans are a lot more successful with women than Asians

depends on how you define intelligence you can have social/dating intelligence and that's where the Afro-Americans shine theyz got da right attitude.

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ali92
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One thing is for sure, African Americans are a lot more successful with women than Asians

depends on how you define intelligence you can have social/dating intelligence and that's where the Afro-Americans shine theyz got da right attitude.
And this is precisely where I suck at. I suck at the simplest things around.

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Elroy79
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You should ask "why are other minorities doing so poorly?"

The same thing that seperates Asians who do well from Asians who do poorly seperates Asians' median performances from the median performances of members of other minorities. To look at the issue of poverty or prosperity from a racial/ethnic perspective is already to deny yourself understanding of it.

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Re: Why are Asians doing so well?

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Question.

Why are Asians by far and away the most successful minority group. I was looking at the average household incomes for minorities that were just released, and Asians were ahead of African Americans by about $10,000. Why is this?


asia's a big place. i'd be careful not to draw too many inferences.

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Asia

(â´zh) , the world's largest continent, 17,139,000 sq mi (44,390,000 sq km), with about 3.3 billion people, nearly three fifths of the world's total population.

Boundaries

Asia's border with Europe–which, geographically, may be regarded as a peninsula of the Eurasian landmass–lies approximately along the Urals, the Ural River, the Caspian Sea, the Caucasus, the Black Sea, the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits, and the Aegean Sea. The connection of Asia with Africa is broken only by the Suez Canal between the Mediterranean Sea and the Red Sea. In the far northeast of Asia, Siberia is separated from North America by the Bering Strait. The continent of Asia is washed on the S by the Gulf of Aden, the Arabian Sea, and the Bay of Bengal; on the E by the South China Sea, East China Sea, Yellow Sea, Sea of Japan, Sea of Okhotsk, and Bering Sea; and on the N by the Arctic Ocean.

Geology and Geography

Geologically, Asia consists of ancient Precambrian landmasses–the Arabian and Indian peninsulas in the south and the central Siberian plateau in the north–enclosing a central zone of folded ridges. In accordance with this underlying structure, Asia falls into the following major physiographic structures: the northern lowlands covering W central Asia and most of Siberia; the vast central highland zone of high plateaus, rising to c.15,000 ft (4,570 m) in Tibet in China and enclosed by some of the world's greatest mountain ranges (the Himalayas, the Karakorum, the Kunlun, the Tian Shan, and the Hindu Kush); the southern peninsular plateaus of India and Arabia, merging, respectively, into the Ganges and Tigris-Euphrates plains; and the lowlands of E Asia, especially in China, which are separated by mountain spurs of the central highland zone. Mt. Everest (29,035 ft/8,856 m), in Nepal, is the world's highest peak; the Dead Sea (1,312 ft/400 m below sea level) is the world's lowest point. Great peninsulas extend out from the mainland, dividing the oceans into seas and bays, many of them protected by Asia's numerous offshore islands. Asia's rivers, among the longest in the world, generally rise in the high plateaus and break through the great chains toward the peripheral lowlands. They include the Ob-Irtysh, the Yenisei-Argana, and Lena of Siberia; the Amur-Argun, Huang He, Chang (Yangtze), Xi, Mekong, Thanlwin, and Ayeyarwady of E and SE Asia; and the Ganges-Brahmaputra, Indus, and Tigris-Euphrates of S and SW Asia. Central Asia has vast areas of interior drainage, including the Amu Darya, Syr Darya, Ili, and Tarim rivers, which empty into inland lakes or disappear into desert sands. The Aral Sea, Lake Baykal, and Lake Balkash are among the world's largest lakes. Climatically, the continent ranges through all extremes, from torrid heat to arctic cold and from torrential rains (the product of monsoons) to extreme aridity (as in the Tarim Basin).

Asia can be divided into six regions, each possessing distinctive physical, cultural, economic, and political characteristics. Southwest Asia (Iran; Turkey, in Asia Minor; and the nations of the Fertile Crescent and the Arabian peninsula or Arabia), long a strategic crossroad, is characterized by an arid climate and irrigated agriculture, great petroleum reserves, and the predominance of Islam. South Asia (Afghanistan and the nations of the Indian subcontinent) is isolated from the rest of Asia by great mountain barriers. Southeast Asia (the nations of the southeastern peninsula and the Malay Archipelago) is characterized by monsoon climate, maritime orientation, the fusion of Indian and Chinese cultures, and a great diversity of ethnic groups, languages, religions, and politics. East Asia (China, Mongolia, Korea, and the islands of Taiwan and Japan) is located in the mid-latitudes on the Pacific Ocean, and is characterized by cultures strongly influenced by civilizations of the Huang He and Chang (Yangtze) river systems. It forms the most industrialized region of Asia. Russian Asia (in the northern third of the continent) consists of the vast region of Siberia and the Russian Far East. In the center of the continent is Central Asia, formed of a set of independent former republics of the Soviet Union. This region is characterized by desert conditions and irrigated agriculture, with ancient traditions of nomadic herding.

Population, Culture, and Economy

The distribution of Asia's huge population is governed by climate and topography, with the monsoons and the fertile alluvial plains determining the areas of greatest density. Such are the Ganges plains of India and the Chang (Yangtze) and northern plains of China, the small alluvial plains of Japan, and the fertile volcanic soils of the Malay Archipelago. Urbanization is greatest in the industrialized regions of Japan, Korea, and Taiwan, but huge urban centers are to be found throughout the continent.

Almost two thirds of Asia's indigenous population is of Mongolic stock. Major religions are Hinduism (in India); Theravada Buddhism (in Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, and Laos); Lamaism, or Tibetan Buddhism (in Mongolia and China, particularly Tibet); East Asian Buddhism (in China and Korea, mixed with Confucianism, shamanism, and Taoism; in Japan mixed with Shinto and Confucianism); Islam (in SW and S Asia, W central Asia, and Indonesia); and Catholicism (in the Philippines, East Timor, and Vietnam).


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I am confused, I was talking about Asian Americans and there relative incomes to other minorities. What does the size and population of Asia have to do with that.


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When you say Asians, are you only reffering to East Asians (Chinese, Koreans, Japanese etc.)?


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I am confused, I was talking about Asian Americans and there relative incomes to other minorities. What does the size and population of Asia have to do with that.


liem i wrote asia's a big place. whom do you speack of? indian-americans, chinese-americans, mongolians-americans, japanese-americans, filipinos-americans, tibetans-americans, latoians-americans, cambodian-americans, vietnamese-americans, korean-americans, thailandese-americans, indonesian-americans, and so forth?

if you look at the several groups you'll discover that there are differences amongst them in incomes and education. that's why i caution to be careful about drawing broad inferences or explanations.


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