by venice i mean roads replaced by rivers,,,

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Originally posted by Phil raa what damage was done by the wind itself to the major buildings....i'm under half the impression that the buildings which caught the most damage from the wind itself were the mobile homes and 'cheap' ones... damage like that will never be avoided ever, you're always gonna have portacabin houses.

i believe NO experienced more than a category 5 (category 6 doesn't even exist.) it blew out windows and roofs off high rise apartment buildings...


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Damage: Complete roof failure on many residences and industrial buildings. Some complete building failures with small utility buildings blown over or away. Flooding causes major damage to lower floors of all structures near the shoreline. Massive evacuation of residential areas may be required.

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Originally posted by LuNaSeA i believe NO experienced more than a category 5 (category 6 doesn't even exist.) it blew out windows and roofs off high rise apartment buildings... Category 5 Hurricane: 155 mph+ (135+ kt) Damage: Complete roof failure on many residences and industrial buildings. Some complete building failures with small utility buildings blown over or away. Flooding causes major damage to lower floors of all structures near the shoreline. Massive evacuation of residential areas may be required.

probably half the damage is from the storm surge and flooding, which is somewhat independent of the wind speed. i mean, you could get a surge of water like that from an earthquake in the ocean... so designing buildings to withstand 200 mph wind might not help enough.

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Originally posted by LuNaSeA cat5s.

i always think you guys are talking about ethernet cable

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Originally posted by Phil raa for sure. the reports say the levee's were designed for a strong cat3. point is, assuming they spend 5 years rebuilding it all. it could happen again. was only a matter of time before it happened in the first place. just trying to say it with tact.

Yep, after Andrew, New Orleans was identified as a potential disaster unless levees were strengthened. Hell, New Orleans has been identified as a potential disaster area for the last 30 years. No money was ever thrown at the problem after the many gloom and doom studies. So, you take a risk too long, try to save a buck in the short term, and deal with the results in the long run...


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Originally posted by butterfly i think there will be another hurricane that complicates relief efforts in the next month. i know it's a negative thought, but the hurricane season is far from over. but i think that if they are going to rebuild, our government should talk to the dutch cause if there is any country who knows about living below sea level, it's them.

fair enough, but the dutch don't have to deal with hurricanes either.

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If every1 there hated the buildings and wanted a miracle such as "reconstruction" of the whole town...they got wat they wished for...cuz this is the only way it happens. Its not the only way it could happen, but it just so happens to be this way.

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Originally posted by LuNaSeA badbadneil: how would they build the rest of the city above sea level? are you assuming they could just raze the buildings and just fill it up with garbage, Staten Island-style? good call m.

No I was thinking more like they did in Japan with their airport. They actually built an airport in the ocean by loading tons and tons of dirt until they had land built up to put an airport on. If you level the buildings in New Orleans (at least around the french district and downtown) perhaps they can build up the land with dirt and perhaps reinforce the edges with a breaker.

Another idea that I thought of is in the Netherlands they have a giant door that closes protecting their cities (which are also below sea level) from flooding from the lake next door. It is like a giant blast door. Well if we put a similar type of sea door at the mouth of lake pontchatrain it would prevent sea water from entering the lake and allowing it to flood into the city...With this in place you wouldn't even need a sea wall in the inside of the city along the lake edge.

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Originally posted by BadBadNeil No I was thinking more like they did in Japan with their airport. They actually built an airport in the ocean by loading tons and tons of dirt until they had land built up to put an airport on. If you level the buildings in New Orleans (at least around the french district and downtown) perhaps they can build up the land with dirt and perhaps reinforce the edges with a breaker. Another idea that I thought of is in the Netherlands they have a giant door that closes protecting their cities (which are also below sea level) from flooding from the lake next door. It is like a giant blast door. Well if we put a similar type of sea door at the mouth of lake pontchatrain it would prevent sea water from entering the lake and allowing it to flood into the city...With this in place you wouldn't even need a sea wall in the inside of the city along the lake edge.

No one would miss New Orleans if they built it elsewhere. C'mon now, what's the sense of rebuilding it in the middle of a bunch of dikes again?


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Originally posted by blazed it fair enough, but the dutch don't have to deal with hurricanes either.

was just about to say that. We get bad weather, but it's limited to rain or winds, never anything 'that' bad

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Originally posted by butterfly i think there will be another hurricane that complicates relief efforts in the next month. i know it's a negative thought, but the hurricane season is far from over.

yeah, hurricane season doesn't really stop until around the end of november.

and since the waters in the gulf and atlantic are still really warm [without going into any gory meteorological dynamics details, basically the jist is that warm/hot waters are necesary for tropical developement and strengthening], I wouldn't doubt it if something happened again. maybe not to n'awlins, but perhaps FL or the rest of the interior of the gulf.

In fact, there have been two hurricanes already since Katrina [Lee and Maria]. both of which didn't do anything [they were out in the middle of the atlantic], and are minimal in comparison to size and strength of katrina....but still goes to show this hurricane season is far from over indeed.

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