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Registered: May 2001
Location: Prague, Czech Republic

Yeah, it's great living in such liberal democracies isn't it?

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POLICE and the spy agency ASIO will be given new powers to fit terror suspects with tracking devices, detain them for up to 14 days without charge and make random bag searches in public areas under a Government crackdown on terrorism.

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Mr Howard said the proposals struck the right balance and they were overwhelmingly essential.

"We are unfortunately living in an era and at a time when unusual but necessary measures are needed to cope with an unusual and threatening situation. I believe these measures do provide a lot of extra protection but they do not, given the circumstances in which we live, unfairly restrict the rights of the citizen."


http://www.theage.com.au/news/war-o...5772640541.html

Being thrown in prison for two weeks without being charged isn't an infringement of rights? Have I told you all lately how much I hate John Howard?


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U.S. Can Confine Citizens Without Charges, Court Rules

By Jerry Markon
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, September 10, 2005; A01

A federal appeals court yesterday backed the president's power to indefinitely detain a U.S. citizen captured on U.S. soil without any criminal charges, holding that such authority is vital during wartime to protect the nation from terrorist attacks.

The ruling, by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, came in the case of Jose Padilla, a former gang member and U.S. citizen arrested in Chicago in 2002 and a month later designated an "enemy combatant" by President Bush. The government contends that Padilla trained at al Qaeda camps and was planning to blow up apartment buildings in the United States. Padilla has been held without trial in a U.S. naval brig for more than three years, and his case has ignited a fierce battle over the balance between civil liberties and the government's power to fight terrorism since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. A host of civil liberties groups and former attorney general Janet Reno weighed in on Padilla's behalf, calling his detention illegal and arguing that the president does not have unchecked power to lock up U.S. citizens indefinitely.

Federal prosecutors asserted that Bush not only had the authority to detain Padilla but also that such power is essential to preventing terrorist strikes. In its ruling yesterday, the three-judge panel overturned a lower court.

A congressional resolution passed after Sept. 11 "provided the President all powers necessary and appropriate to protect American citizens from terrorist attacks," the decision said. "Those powers include the power to detain identified and committed enemies such as Padilla, who associated with al Qaeda . . . who took up arms against this Nation in its war against these enemies, and who entered the United States for the avowed purpose of further prosecuting that war by attacking American citizens."

Padilla is one of two U.S. citizens held as enemy combatants since the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. The other, Yaser Esam Hamdi, was released and flown to Saudi Arabia last year after the Supreme Court upheld the government's power to detain him but said he could challenge that detention in U.S. courts.

U.S. Can Confine Citizens Without Charges, Court Rules


See how many people jump on the IMPEACH BUSH bandwagon only to ignore that Congress gave him authority with the Patriot Act after the Reichstag fire of September 11th 2001.

They that would give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin


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so george orwell missed the mark by what, 21 years?


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so george orwell missed the mark by what, 21 years?


20.


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