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Vizay
immiNspired

Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Stockholm & in my mind
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Sep-16-2005 04:10
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emc^2
FCK MNML

Registered: Mar 2005
Location: 255.255.255.255
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BT is modern day Mozart, no doubt. He composed his first orchestral score at the age of 5! Here's an excellent read from SOS:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Dec...iantranseau.asp
On the "Emotional Technology" album he had a track that they were considering to enter in to the Guiness Book of World Records as the track with the most elements! One of the tracks is said to have over 1000 different elements.
| quote: | Originally posted by Vizay
If I'm not totally mistaken he doesn't do the stutters by hand since he can use this effect live with a little help from a really cool optical device 
It wouldn't suprise me if he's written his own plugins to do this kind of stuff, that would be a typical way for him to do stuff, 100% how he wan'ts it to work 
And he's truly amazing, just listen to Last moment of clarity from his album emotional technology. It starts with raindrops that's real rain recorded and every raindrop is quantisized after a 256parts pattern
and then comes that cool morph when he mixes over from the outside to the inside, really cool effect and a good example of his amazing creativity 
to put it short, BT is a genious, maybe even the bethoven or bach of todays time |
You're probably referring to this article:
http://www.keyboardmag.com/story.as...&storycode=4449
He is trully a genous... and a little bit of a devil, too! I can't recall how many speeding tickets I got while blasting BT's "Godspeed" (from MISL). Stick that song into your CD player and you got your own soundrack for your own "the (maybe) fast and (somewhat) furious" movie, staring you!
The most amazing thing about BT is that you instantly recognize "his sound"... Yeah, I'd definitely love to hang out with him for a day or several thousand...
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Sep-16-2005 08:29
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peejunk
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Registered: Jun 2005
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BT may not make trance now, but he was one of the pioneers to forge it in early/mid nineties. Look up "Libra feat. Taylor" on Discogs and find about other monikers he used while he was making trance.
Tho, he is a bit too into himself, and often talks nonsense just to come out smarter and more l33t than thou.
For example "nano editing" makes no sense, there are hundreds of nanoseconds in between two consecutive samples in an audio clip. He is probably just reffering to edits at sample level. I also honestly doubt he made any software, or tools. He might have worked with people who did stuff as an advisor tho (like Ritchie Hawtin influenced development of Ableton Live etc.).
dblueGlitch, suppatrigga and even fruity granulizer could be used for some really cool stutter effects with some proper automation. Other than that, just add tiny (sub 1/16th) slices of teh same vocal with volume fadeouts and overlaps (for some flangey effect). It's not that difficult, it's just time consuming.
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Sep-16-2005 16:47
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Apollo303
Junior tranceaddict

Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Amman
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| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Good stutters are almost always done by hand, not with cheap plugins like the granulizer. Don't get me wrong, granular synthesis can produce some pretty cool effects, but they won't even come close to what you hear from BT/Hybrid/etc. They also use a lot of math-music plugins, or so I've heard - I have no clue how to use those and don't have any desire to learn. 
And yes, BT does have a lot of tricks up his sleeve. He's one of the most brilliant producers in existence, so good luck trying to duplicate his effects with Fruityloops' native plugins. |
Hey dude , I don't only use the native FLoops Plugins , but if you think that native Fruity Loops Plugins don't rock , try to SEE software first , and see a music piece named MY BODY that is found in the folder "/Cool Stuff" and there you will see what a native plugin like the Fruity Granulizer can do to a vocal...
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Sep-16-2005 18:45
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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!

Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe
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| quote: | Originally posted by peejunk
It's not that difficult, it's just time consuming. |
That's exactly the point.
You can get some okay results using granular synthesis plugins but you really have to know what you're doing, and if you know what you're doing then it's often easier just to do the edits and cuts by hand.
No software can automagically create stutters except maybe for math-music plugins. The reason is that not every part of a sound is "stutterable" - for vocals, it's almost always the plosive sounds that get the stutter, so only a correctly-programmed math-music plugin would actually be able to detect the plosives in an arbitrary vocal sound and sync it properly.
There are other ways of getting a sound to stutter of course, like fuzz or distortion, but again, all this stuff essentially involves doing the edits by hand. Apply some modulated pre-processing (flanger, fuzz, compression, filters, etc. with automated parameters over a few beats or bars), make the cuts, and apply envelopes and post-processing like reverb or delay to get rid of the harshness.
That still won't get it to sound like BT does, but honestly, if you haven't figured out yet how to do a basic stutter than trying to recreate BT or Hybrid is setting the bar way too high. Get some practice first, and the rest will come to you.
| quote: | Originally posted by Apollo303
Hey dude , I don't only use the native FLoops Plugins , but if you think that native Fruity Loops Plugins don't rock , try to SEE software first , and see a music piece named MY BODY that is found in the folder "/Cool Stuff" and there you will see what a native plugin like the Fruity Granulizer can do to a vocal... |
No, sorry, the native FL plugins suck. People who don't listen very carefully often *think* that the granulizer can create those effects (I hear it all the time on this forum), but the effects you get are really quite different.
Granular synthesis <> stutters. GS is more like symmetric gating and enveloping.
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