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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

ABC news and all the big ones, including Fox, is saying that this person will testify next week before a Senate Judiciary Committee on who ordered the destruction and when. when, being the operative word here.

so lets keep an eye on it.

Old Post Sep-17-2005 01:40  United States
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Trancer-X
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

quote:
Originally posted by Streakfury
Meh, let them get on with it, I say.


Ignorance is bliss.

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Trancer-X
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Registered: Jul 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo

so lets keep an eye on it.


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Moongoose
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Location: Celje, Slovenia

quote:
Originally posted by ali92
Video can take up 2.5 TB very easily, in uncompressed high-res format. Heck, uncompressed HDTV can take about 200 GB for like 30 minutes, or even more.

Even though i have my doubts if people in american inteligence agencies have any inteligence at all im rather certain that they employ at least one geek that knows how to use a divx encoder


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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
Even though i have my doubts if people in american inteligence agencies have any inteligence at all im rather certain that they employ at least one geek that knows how to use a divx encoder


You do realise divx isn't perfect If you want the best quality you shouldnt encode it, so it's probably a good idea to keep it in raw format if you have lots of resources like these guys

Anyway, that's fucking interesting!!!

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ali92
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Location: Fishtown, Philadelphia

quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
You do realise divx isn't perfect If you want the best quality you shouldnt encode it, so it's probably a good idea to keep it in raw format if you have lots of resources like these guys

Anyway, that's fucking interesting!!!
Yes. This is very true. Lossy encoders have artefacts in the files, no matter how high the bitrate or resolution, and they get rid of stuff that supposedly can't be seen with the naked eye, within normal viewing range for films or TV programmes, and are resonable settinsg for the average viewer. The kind of applications military uses video for, are far from what can be considered 'normal' when contrasted with consumer technology.

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I always knew clinton was responsible ...


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occrider
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Location: New York

quote:
Originally posted by Streakfury
Why would they do that? I mean, it would only add fuel to the fire of all these conspiracy theorists about how 9/11 is another great cover-up.



From my understanding, able danger not only spied on potential terrorists, but also spied on US citizens. This is of course, extremely illegal for a military intellgience service and prompted its shutdown. A double edged sword if you will ...

quote:

Intrigue Over Able Danger Grows
Updated: Thursday, Sep. 1, 2005 - 6:32 AM

WTOP's J.J. Green looks into how Able Danger altered careers.

J.J. Green, federalnewsradio.com

WASHINGTON - The Pentagon appears to have reversed its position on Able Danger, the Army intelligence collection team.

A Pentagon spokesman now says "there's no reason to doubt the specific recollections" of the growing number of team members. The team members say the project had pre-Sept. 11 intelligence on al Qaida, which Defense Department lawyers prohibited them from sharing with the FBI.

Members of the team say they identified the lead Sept. 11 terrorist Mohamed Atta as a cell leader more than a year before the attacks on the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon.

"You could touch the picture and literally drill down and it would give you all the facts that we had from whatever source we had, we identified our sources and then why we had made a link," says defense contractor J.D. Smith, describing how Able Danger's computer software program worked.

The team collected and analyzed information gathered by the "deep" data mining operation.

Smith says data was gathered from a variety of sources, including about 30 or 40 individuals, but one day it all came to a grinding halt. So why did that happen?

"The I.G. (inspector general) came in and shut down the operation because of a claim that we were collecting information on U.S citizens," says Smith.


It turned out to be more than just a claim.

"On some of my charts I had links to U.S citizens," he says.

Smith notes that it's illegal for the military to collect intelligence on U.S. citizens.

Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa., has alleged a Pentagon coverup regarding Able Danger and is seeking congressional hearings on the matter. Weldon has said coverup will "shake the country to its roots."

(Copyright 2005 by WTOP. All Rights Reserved.)


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MrSquirrel
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: In a Tree.

quote:
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I always knew clinton was responsible ...


For that stain on your dress?

Ya I figured he was too.






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Trancer-X
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
From my understanding, able danger not only spied on potential terrorists, but also spied on US citizens. This is of course, extremely illegal for a military intellgience service and prompted its shutdown. A double edged sword if you will ...


And Able Danger was only one of many gov't. programs that were deemed to be illegal. It would be nice if people could learn these things so that I wouldn't have to constantly be dealing with naive, uninformed kids on here, but I do realize that's a lot to ask.

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Trancer-X
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Interesting post, Trancer.

I kinda wonder if the tin foil hat could be worn by either party. Some Rightside tin foilers might claim some Clintonites might have covered this up a little bit, considering it was from 2 yrs. prior to 9/11. Like I said, it'll be interesting to see how far this goes...


On another note, I actually upgraded from the tinfoil hat a little while ago. I'm currently testing the new "mind guard" software beta on my Linux box - and I've been having some great success with it!

Check it:
http://zapatopi.net/mindguard/


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josh4
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wtf Trancer

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