"The Ghost and the Darkness" all over again

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I made mention of that, however, it must be recognized that the Tiger was still quite promonent when the large culls were stopped in the early 1900s. The present state of the Tiger has more to do with poaching and population growth of the second half of the 1900s then it does the hunts of the 1800s. Additionally, this does not negate my point that hunting does offer effective protection for people against man eating cats.

Ya but hunting them won't help....the lions are doing this as there is no other food for them due to humans killing off their means

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Originally posted by Dancing*Queen Ya but hunting them won't help....the lions are doing this as there is no other food for them due to humans killing off their means

While it is... regrettable that this situation happens, but when it comes to a choice between human and animal, who do you think is worth more?

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

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Originally posted by Dancing*Queen Ya but hunting them won't help....the lions are doing this as there is no other food for them due to humans killing off their means

no see, hunting will help because the man eaters will be killed.... that elimanates the immediate threat... once that is taken care of then long term solutions can be examined.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big fan of killing animals simply for doing what animals do but if it is necessary in order to safeguard people then hey, hand me a .50 and let's go!

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by EvilTree While it is... regrettable that this situation happens, but when it comes to a choice between human and animal, who do you think is worth more?

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big fan of killing animals simply for doing what animals do but if it is necessary in order to safeguard people then hey, hand me a .50 and let's go!

so what you're saying is that one animals life is worth more than another's?

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Originally posted by MaxTO so what you're saying is that one animals life is worth more than another's?

Yep. Humans are a little bit more special in my mind.

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

Lion still hungry.

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Originally posted by MaxTO so what you're saying is that one animals life is worth more than another's?

Yes! And I'll go you one better....... brace yourself..... Some humans' lives are worth more then others! I have to look at these situations with an eye to motivated self interest. Is it in the best interest to have these humans live in the area and perhaps make some meaningful contribution to human existance then to have these lions continue to live when it is almost certain their continued existance will not benefit human society........ OF COURSE. I couldn't give a shit less about this pride of 20 lions because their continued existance is of no benefit to ME. Much the same as if I were forced to choose between your life (yes you Max) and the lives of the Ethiopian villagers in question.... I would choose you over all of them because it is more likely, on a balance of probabilities, that you will make a meaningful contribution to the world then all of them combined. To me your life is worth more then theirs!

This idea that "all men are created equal" or the more modern "all creatures are created equal" is flawed because a) it is simply incorrect, and b) even if it were true it fails to recognize that where you start means less then where you end and how you get there.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Yes! And I'll go you one better....... brace yourself..... Some humans' lives are worth more then others! I have to look at these situations with an eye to motivated self interest. Is it in the best interest to have these humans live in the area and perhaps make some meaningful contribution to human existance then to have these lions continue to live when it is almost certain their continued existance will not benefit human society........ OF COURSE. I couldn't give a shit less about this pride of 20 lions because their continued existance is of no benefit to ME. Much the same as if I were forced to choose between your life (yes you Max) and the lives of the Ethiopian villagers in question.... I would choose you over all of them because it is more likely, on a balance of probabilities, that you will make a meaningful contribution to the world then all of them combined. To me your life is worth more then theirs! This idea that "all men are created equal" or the more modern "all creatures are created equal" is flawed because a) it is simply incorrect, and b) even if it were true it fails to recognize that where you start means less then where you end and how you get there.

The insurance industry is making you bitter...it's about time.

Needless to say....I agree 100% with you. Unfortunately...many people don't see the big picture and only look at what they see infront of them.

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this story reminds me of a classic Mr. Burns quotation from the Simpson's episode with the "Lil' Lisa Slurry Factory" episode:

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Mr Burns: Oooh, so Mother Nature needs a favor?! Well maybe she should have thought of that when she was besetting us with droughts and floods and poison monkeys! Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing. Well I say, hard cheese.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Yes! And I'll go you one better....... brace yourself..... Some humans' lives are worth more then others! I have to look at these situations with an eye to motivated self interest. Is it in the best interest to have these humans live in the area and perhaps make some meaningful contribution to human existance then to have these lions continue to live when it is almost certain their continued existance will not benefit human society........ OF COURSE. I couldn't give a shit less about this pride of 20 lions because their continued existance is of no benefit to ME. Much the same as if I were forced to choose between your life (yes you Max) and the lives of the Ethiopian villagers in question.... I would choose you over all of them because it is more likely, on a balance of probabilities, that you will make a meaningful contribution to the world then all of them combined. To me your life is worth more then theirs! This idea that "all men are created equal" or the more modern "all creatures are created equal" is flawed because a) it is simply incorrect, and b) even if it were true it fails to recognize that where you start means less then where you end and how you get there.

If people were all equal, how would we know that we were better than them?

Sames goes for the dividing line of the rich and poor. Rich people wouldn't know they were rich unless there were poor people around to compare themselves too. That was the real reason communism failed...