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Groundhog Boy
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Registered: May 2005
Location: New York, NY

quote:
Originally posted by punjabi
i just dont understand how people can say the central park set wasn't good. it was my second time seeing him this year and it blew away the expectations i had based my first time seeing him. i thought he played a lot of amazing tracks...he sure had my ass gettin down the whole night.

You said this in the NYC forum. There were lots of people, myself included, who felt it was an uninspired set. Worst I've seen him this year in 4 trips out. I heard he killed when he flew down to Space immediately following the set, though. Too bad he didn't stick in NYC that night to play an afterparty to redeem himself.

BTW, I didn't hate TPOD2 as much as everyone else. I've only listened to it once or twice, though. Even though some of the tracks were older, I don't mind. I mean Desyn Masiello's Balance 008 has Halcyon + On + On, and it's what, 10 years old? I was really grateful when Sasha dropped it at Crobar this spring because I thought the time had passed to hear it in a club. Age isn't always a bad thing.

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Cobalt
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Vancouver, BC

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
TPOD1 was a PVD-only release. It was original, you could tell it was PVD.
TPOD2 could have been made by anyone. Apart from a couple of Vandit tracks, its generic tunes that everyone is raping. (Read: Lyteo)


THATS the difference.

In brief, yes, I think that's the main failing of TPOD2.

Old Post Sep-21-2005 22:03  Canada
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DiMethGuy
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: America the Beautiful

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
I am finding a strong contrast between what kids on this site are saying about this CD and what kids on other sites are saying about it, it is quite strange. I am finding that alot of people are highly recomending it, but most posts here are critical, almost angry sounding. I really wish I could separate which opinions are genuine and which ones are fueled by the TA bandwagon effect, and just get an idea that isnt based on some wierd niche snob perspective, but there is no way to tell what people are thinking when they say the things they say.

If only there were a single place around to help ppl pick which EDM to buy that wasnt fettered by the bandwagon effect


It's not brain surgery. You pick up a cd and one of three things happens:

1.) You listen to it and tell right away it is uninspired and does nothing for you. Destined for the coaster collection.

2.) Captures some of your interest, but will require more listening to determine it's ultimate value.

3.) You tell right away it's an amazing cd and destined for the classics shelf.

TPOD2 falls under scenario uno.


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akkare
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Charlotte NC

I think people are spoiled by livesets nowadays, if sets like Jahre Maximal and some others hadn't been released people would be all over PoD2 like they were when Jahre first came out.

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Alekos
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: George is on

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Seems as though a lot of people are upset with his live sets as of late as well. Do you think maybe this is a sign that he is trying new things? Possibly trying to change his sound? I cought him three times this year. 2 performances were awesome and the 3rd, in NYC Central Park, was meh... Sucks to see such a great dj just take a dive like that. I hope it is just a phase and he is coming up with something new.


Actually not to long ago he said, that he's trying new things... dark/acid type of things!


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Cobalt
Trance Isn't Trance



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Vancouver, BC

quote:
Originally posted by IKKI-ZUVK
Actually not to long ago he said, that he's trying new things... dark/acid type of things!

I've heard him say similar before, including before Reflections, and it never materialized.

Putting out an album of tracks harder and more driving than Out There mashed with Avenue would be smart and creative, but it won't sell, and sadly that's on Paul's mind these days, so far as I can tell.

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Aureus
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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Culver City, CA

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0915
I am finding a strong contrast between what kids on this site are saying about this CD and what kids on other sites are saying about it, it is quite strange. I am finding that alot of people are highly recomending it, but most posts here are critical, almost angry sounding. I really wish I could separate which opinions are genuine and which ones are fueled by the TA bandwagon effect, and just get an idea that isnt based on some wierd niche snob perspective, but there is no way to tell what people are thinking when they say the things they say.

If only there were a single place around to help ppl pick which EDM to buy that wasnt fettered by the bandwagon effect


My opinion [of this album] isn't affected by what anyone on this site says, or anyone on any site, period. I'm just upset that I actually took time out of my life for music that completely fails to meet the standards of what I'd expect from PvD. On the bright side, at least I didn't shell out $22 for it. Thank God for the "listen-first" turn that online-retailers have taken.


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Tim Shady
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Swansea

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
TPOD1 was a PVD-only release. It was original, you could tell it was PVD.
TPOD2 could have been made by anyone. Apart from a couple of Vandit tracks, its generic tunes that everyone is raping. (Read: Lyteo)


THATS the difference.


+1

I'm sure it's well mixed and done in a professional manner, but considering all the tracks that were getting mentioned beforehand and all the guff about having to dig deep to find the tunes for TPOD2, the final tracklist is a great disapointment

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Nayil
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Registered: Nov 2004
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TPOD2... Hmm... i dont think it was bad at all...i liked the mixing.

But I wanted a more feeling of TPOD1 in it, and not sumthing so different.

I heard most of the tracks before.....so i guess thats y it wasnt as special.


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Swamper
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quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
TPOD1 was a PVD-only release. It was original, you could tell it was PVD.
TPOD2 could have been made by anyone. Apart from a couple of Vandit tracks, its generic tunes that everyone is raping. (Read: Lyteo)


THATS the difference.


I agree 100% with this.

And for the person who mentioned that it is because of the availability of livesets that this CD isn't that good - that's bull - I hold PvD in VERY high regard as a DJ and I still love TPOD1 to death - this despite having tons of PvD sets pre-TPOD1 and seeing him live quite a few times. This CD is a major disappointment - it is not representative of his talents - at least to my ears.


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Max2LC
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Baltimore, USA
Re: PvD: The Politics of Dancing 2

quote:
Originally posted by Aureus
Is anyone else utterly appalled by how freakin' horrible this album is?


I have to disagree.....I like the mix. It is deffinately not as good as POD 1, but this one is def. Good in my oppinion. I like CD2 more.


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eRRaTiK
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
TPOD1 was a PVD-only release. It was original, you could tell it was PVD.
TPOD2 could have been made by anyone. Apart from a couple of Vandit tracks, its generic tunes that everyone is raping. (Read: Lyteo)


THATS the difference.


+4


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