The ECLER NUO5 has better sound and build quality, better faders, better effects and more features overall than the Pioneer DJM-600....and its the same price (or less!).

I see no point in buying the DJM-600 over the NUO (except for the sampler on the DJM, if thats your thing)

Or even the A&H XONE:62 is a better choice over the DJM.

sorry...I'm just not a fan of the DJM-600....it wasa great mixer for its time, but now, there's a lot better mixers out there for the money.

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Originally posted by spdandpwr really at that price you will get quality i mean some mixers might get you a little more feature but essentially you can't go wrong with it although its crossfader isn't for scratchers

The crossfader on the DJM600 is excellent for scratching. It's the Xone62 you can't scratch with.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox The crossfader on the DJM600 is excellent for scratching. It's the Xone62 you can't scratch with.

the nuo 5 comes with 2 different faders.

the long life fader & a scratch fader! award winning fader apparently

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The DJM is NOT good for scratching sure you can do a few scratches on it but really it is terrible. I have heard that it can be modified to be decent though.

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Originally posted by Zild The DJM is NOT good for scratching sure you can do a few scratches on it but really it is terrible. I have heard that it can be modified to be decent though.

What exactly isn't good about it then?

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the not-so-adjustable curve, the feel of the fader and the overall quality of the fader.

dont get me wrong, you *can* scratch with the DJM-600...you can scratch with pretty much any mixer really....but its not really made for it, not made for the abuse of hardcore scratching. Plus the fader isnt as precise as some of the newer ones on the market, with adjustable curve, cut in time, tension etc....

Yeah I was about to edit my post to say obviously stuff like the 707 has got built in effects, curve control etc designed for scratch DJs, as opposed to the effects on the DJM600 which are designed for numpties but these things are relatively new, was wondering if there was a general thing that scratch DJs have wanted on mixers since the dawn of time that this didn't have...

But you've answered that question so thanks

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Specifically the adjustable curve isn't quite sharp enough, the fader doesn't feel very solid when in use, and the area you place your hands to scratch is cluttered by other knobs. I can scratch on it, but I would rather just do basic stuff like chirps and one click flares, etc...

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volume faders - nice smooth curve.
sound quality - pretty good.
effects unit - nice. you can pull off some nice tricks if you use it right.
crossfader - not the best for scratching, but its doable.
EQs - the only thing i'm not 100% happy with. i believe the low EQ has too much power, as opposed to the other two. the track dies down a lot with the bass killed. also, the EQs go from -9dB to +12dB, +12 being excessive, so you must be careful when playing around, specially with the bass.

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Originally posted by Inertia volume faders - nice smooth curve. sound quality - pretty good. effects unit - nice. you can pull off some nice tricks if you use it right. crossfader - not the best for scratching, but its doable. EQs - the only thing i'm not 100% happy with. i believe the low EQ has too much power, as opposed to the other two. the track dies down a lot with the bass killed. also, the EQs go from -9dB to +12dB, +12 being excessive, so you must be careful when playing around, specially with the bass.

The sound quality on the DJM600 is actually pretty shite in my experience. This is because all of the sound is routed through the sampler, I'm told, even if it isn't in use. The DJM500 actually sounds quite a bit better.

I agree with the EQs - the low eq has got quite a wide bandwidth I think so it takes out quite a lot of the mid as well. Also, it doesn't cut enough for my liking. They actually go down to -26dB, 9 really would be silly, but -26 still isn't enough to really take out the bass properly I think.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox It's the Xone62 you can't scratch with.

The crossfader on my 62 works absolutely fine for scratching.

As for my thoughts on the 600, it's pretty nice. The one thing that I don't like is that the EQ knobs are too fat and the faders are too wide. I like the smaller sizes on my 62.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox The sound quality on the DJM600 is actually pretty shite in my experience. This is because all of the sound is routed through the sampler, I'm told, even if it isn't in use. The DJM500 actually sounds quite a bit better. I agree with the EQs - the low eq has got quite a wide bandwidth I think so it takes out quite a lot of the mid as well. Also, it doesn't cut enough for my liking. They actually go down to -26dB, 9 really would be silly, but -26 still isn't enough to really take out the bass properly I think.

hehe, oh shit. -26dB is correct. got messed up with 9 as it'as what most mixers have in the positive EQ range. my bad. but yeah, agree with you fully. i had learn to mix on a POS Stanton mixer, but i could bring the bass EQ all the way down for fading my track in. my mixes didn't sound smooth when i moved up to a 600 for the first time. took some getting used to.

on the sound quality though. yes i have heard this, about it being routed through the FX unit, as opposed to the Xone line of mixers. but i don't understand how the DJM500 would be better, as it has one as well, only it has no sampler. perhaps that is it. in any case, i've always heard people rate the 600 over the 500 in terms out sound quality.

unless you're running a studio, audiphile system, or recording mixes for release on record labels (which quite a few DJs have done using a 600 and just recording) i still don't see why you would need more sound quality than the 600 offers.

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