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Trancer-X
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala
Re: Re: Re: Re: My issue with torture.

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Are you refering to this? I answered that.

You answered with they'll, "Probably have a civil war" like that wasn't obvious, and I say mention the Americans are there to prevent that.
They're there now trying to stop civil war and get a country back on their feet. There's nothing wishy-washy about that statement at all.
They knew that before they went in, hell, we all knew that during the first Gulf War in '91 because the question of a "power vaccuum" was brought up even then.
Even the Left side of blogsphere agrees why the Americans are there now.

http://www.democracynow.org/article...5/04/20/1427259

The arguement isn't so "backtracking, wishy-washy, [and] crapola" now is it??



And if you actually read what's in front of you, you'd see clearly that I wasn't talking about Bush; I was talking about me having to explain myself every. fucking. post.


Okay, since you have obviously failed on your quest to put these small pieces of information together in any sort of coherent manner, I will do it for you.

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First off, yes, even my friend's autistic brother knows that we are there now, preventing any serious internal conflicts that would lead to a civil war.

You said,

quote:
I'm just thinking ahead when all "Infidels" have left...


Okay, so now we're thinking ahead to a time without occupying forces (meaning outside troops are no longer there)

Then I said,

quote:
Then they'll probably just have a civil war.


So you responded with,

quote:
But the Americans are already there now stopping this very thing...


But we were "thinking ahead" to a time where the American troops have withdrawn. So unless our troops have some means of bending the space~time continuum, they can't be withdrwan and there at the same time, can they?

So then you delve even further into stupidity by adding,

quote:
Wow...
I ask a few actual questions that actually deserve some actual thought and everyone does a knee-jerk stop at Bush.
Pardon me if I don't think, "He's all that" and that the world doesn't revolve around the fuckin' guy.
Look, forget the fact that it looks like I'm defending the guy; I've debunked that already, but apparently some people need some, how you say, "reading comprehension".

This is a place of debate, act like it.


to which I responded,

quote:
Hey moron, ONCE AGAIN, my post had absolutely nothing at all to do with Bush. So don't group me with anyone else because my post was directed only at you and had nothing whatsoever to do with anything BUT the post I was responding to.


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So yes, this is a place of debate - but you seem to be too mentally deficient to even know how to hold a proper debate.

And again, I never said anything about Bush - so fucking drop it already.

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Yoepus
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Registered: Jan 2002
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I just found this out!!!

Terrorism is against the Geneva convention also!



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Trancer-X
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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
I just found this out!!!

Terrorism is against the Geneva convention also!




But hypocrisy apparently isn't.

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Yoepus
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quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
But hypocrisy apparently isn't.


Guess they thoght better to make terrorism illegal than hypocrisy


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Trancer-X
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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Guess they thoght better to make terrorism illegal than hypocrisy


Come again?

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Fir3start3r
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My issue with torture.

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Okay, since you have obviously failed on your quest to put these small pieces of information together in any sort of coherent manner, I will do it for you.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

First off, yes, even my friend's autistic brother knows that we are there now, preventing any serious internal conflicts that would lead to a civil war.

You said,



Okay, so now we're thinking ahead to a time without occupying forces (meaning outside troops are no longer there)

Then I said,



So you responded with,



But we were "thinking ahead" to a time where the American troops have withdrawn. So unless our troops have some means of bending the space~time continuum, they can't be withdrwan and there at the same time, can they?

So then you delve even further into stupidity by adding,



to which I responded,



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So yes, this is a place of debate - but you seem to be too mentally deficient to even know how to hold a proper debate.

And again, I never said anything about Bush - so fucking drop it already.


Communication breakdown...

I do understand what you're trying to say now so thanks for finally explaining it in a more cohesive manner.
I can see where it got off topic and that when you backtracked and mentioned civil war, to which I responded to, totally disregarding the 'thiking ahead' since I only quoted the civil war post.

Anyways, I think this is dragged on enough and we're making a huge matter out of mole hill at this point so let's just drop it already.

You win Teh Internets Symantecs Prize!


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Trancer-X
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My issue with torture.

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Communication breakdown...

I do understand what you're trying to say now so thanks for finally explaining it in a more cohesive manner.
I can see where it got off topic and that when you backtracked and mentioned civil war, to which I responded to, totally disregarding the 'thiking ahead' since I only quoted the civil war post.

Anyways, I think this is dragged on enough and we're making a huge matter out of mole hill at this point so let's just drop it already.

You win Teh Internets Symantecs Prize!


Whew! I really had figured that this was going to keep on going, so I'm happy that you finally understood. I was just going along with the argument and when you started with the "I'm just thinking ahead when all "Infidels" have left..." I naturally progressed further down (or up?) the theoretical timeline.

Anyway, my apologies for the insults. I feel bad about having to stoop to that level just to get such an insignificant point across.

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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My issue with torture.

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Whew! I really had figured that this was going to keep on going, so I'm happy that you finally understood. I was just going along with the argument and when you started with the "I'm just thinking ahead when all "Infidels" have left..." I naturally progressed further down (or up?) the theoretical timeline.

Anyway, my apologies for the insults. I feel bad about having to stoop to that level just to get such an insignificant point across.


No worries man.
I think we both were a little frustrated and hot on the keyboard...


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I think I need a tissue.

Or another moist towel.

Jesus fucking Christ who said you guys need to stop the fucking vitriol? Shall we all pop a few pills, tell stories about shit we can't remember saying 5 seconds ago just to feel fucking "empathy" and "closeness" to fucking one another, put each other's name in our fucking phones and realize only later that we'll either never fucking call each other and/or how the fuck that name and phone number got in my fucking address book in the fucking first place, and hope the sun never burns our fucking skin off when it comes up or something?

Fucking pussies.















Anyone ever try the Greg Norman Zinfandel? Pretty damn tasty. Really tasty. I really don't wanna fucking go to school tomorrow. I really don't wanna fucking wake up tomorrow for class. Fuck me.


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quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
I think I need a tissue.

Or another moist towel.








Anyone ever try the Greg Norman Zinfandel? Pretty damn tasty. Really tasty. I really don't wanna fucking go to school tomorrow. I really don't wanna fucking wake up tomorrow for class. Fuck me.


I know this doesn't fit in with your rant, Opus, but I had some absinthe yesterday... I was feeling mighty lucid.

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quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
I think I need a tissue.

Or another moist towel.

Jesus fucking Christ who said you guys need to stop the fucking vitriol? Shall we all pop a few pills, tell stories about shit we can't remember saying 5 seconds ago just to feel fucking "empathy" and "closeness" to fucking one another, put each other's name in our fucking phones and realize only later that we'll either never fucking call each other and/or how the fuck that name and phone number got in my fucking address book in the fucking first place, and hope the sun never burns our fucking skin off when it comes up or something?

Fucking pussies.















Anyone ever try the Greg Norman Zinfandel? Pretty damn tasty. Really tasty. I really don't wanna fucking go to school tomorrow. I really don't wanna fucking wake up tomorrow for class. Fuck me.



Frank the Tank! Frank the Tank!

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[QUOTE][b]Originally posted by MisterOpus1 [/







Anyone ever try the Greg Norman Zinfandel? Pretty damn tasty. Really tasty. I really don't wanna fucking go to school tomorrow. I really don't wanna fucking wake up tomorrow for class. Fuck me. [/QUOTE

Enjoying college life a bit too much old timer eh?


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