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Originally posted by St_Andrew Well if the king is that popular he should fucking run for parliament.

Why should he? He has more power then the parliment

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Really, I don't see why in a democracy a non elected person (a person choosen by god ) should have any powers whatsoever!

There goes judges, ambassadors, bureaucrates, cops, etc...

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Yeah, I defently see where the law is comming from, however it doesn't belong to 21st century.

Thats like saying if we had a hypothetical situation where I just saved your life after you begged for mercy and said that if I spare your life you will forever pay me $2000 a year. And then after 5 years when you have a posse of bodygaurds your like, "I already give you $10,000, what are you gonna do, kill me?".

Ya.. I coulda and probably shoulda. See the point? Its just about integrity.

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Feel free to read it http://riksdagen.se/templates/R_Page____6357.aspx

Zaqariw's letter is on my #1 on the things to read list. Until there is some dispute there is no reason for me to read your Constituion. Thought I found the "Act of Succession" part interesting.

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(We are on our way making a new one tho)

Mmm inspired by the EU are you?

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The king has no powers whatsoever in Sweden. The king has the title "Head of State", the only thing he does thogh is to open up every session in the parliament (once a year). He has no powers whatsoever to do anything else. He can still not be charged tho, which is the only benefit he has over other ppl today (and of course that he get like 40 millions a year to spend of tax money ).

I could probably prove you wrong but I prefer to read what a terrorist has to say.

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I think we had a constitution similair to the Danish, but it was majorly ammended in the '70s, where all the king's powers were taken away, amongst other things.

Guess it comes in handy that your Kings are drunkards that don't know how to read I guess

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Skull? like in the swedish word "skull"?!

Yes

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Originally posted by St_Andrew Yeah, I defently see where the law is comming from, however it doesn't belong to 21st century. Feel free to read it http://riksdagen.se/templates/R_Page____6357.aspx (We are on our way making a new one tho) The king has no powers whatsoever in Sweden. The king has the title "Head of State", the only thing he does thogh is to open up every session in the parliament (once a year). He has no powers whatsoever to do anything else. He can still not be charged tho, which is the only benefit he has over other ppl today (and of course that he get like 40 millions a year to spend of tax money ). I think we had a constitution similair to the Danish, but it was majorly ammended in the '70s, where all the king's powers were taken away, amongst other things.

Well in Denmark politicians tend to view changes/alterations to the constitution as something that should be absolutely necessary - attempting to keep the constitution as simple as possible. However, we have yet to have a nut job as a king, and if that happened we might take similar measures as you Swedes in limiting the formal powers of the king.

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Originally posted by Yoepus Why should he? He has more power then the parliment

My point was that if the king is a really popular man, and that would ratify his powers, then he could as well run for parliment to prove that he is that popular.

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There goes judges, ambassadors, bureaucrates, cops, etc...

Those are appointed by a democratically elected government tho, and/or can be fired if we decide they are not up to the task.

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Thats like saying if we had a hypothetical situation where I just saved your life after you begged for mercy and said that if I spare your life you will forever pay me $2000 a year. And then after 5 years when you have a posse of bodygaurds your like, "I already give you $10,000, what are you gonna do, kill me?". Ya.. I coulda and probably shoulda. See the point? Its just about integrity.

Please explain to me why we would have a moral responsibility to uphold the kings powers? Your anology just doesnt cut it

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Zaqariw's letter is on my #1 on the things to read list. Until there is some dispute there is no reason for me to read your Constituion. Thought I found the "Act of Succession" part interesting.

It would just be a good example for you to see how a monarchy could actually be democratic

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Mmm inspired by the EU are you?

Lol, clearly the EU is inspired by us

No but the current system is kinda weird. We don't have a constitution per se, we have four "constitutions". Our freedom of press and freedom of information actually dates back longer than your constitution tho

I think we are going to get a more of a US style constitution now. will probably take something like 10 years tho before we have a new one. But I'm confident that by then we will have one of the best constitutions in the world

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I could probably prove you wrong but I prefer to read what a terrorist has to say.

I bet you 10 bucks you can't prove me wrong

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Guess it comes in handy that your Kings are drunkards that don't know how to read I guess

Lol, exactly!

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Yes

Hmm okay

Never thought about that

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Originally posted by trancaholic Well in Denmark politicians tend to view changes/alterations to the constitution as something that should be absolutely necessary - attempting to keep the constitution as simple as possible.

Taking away all the text from the constitution dealing with the king's powers, would actually make the constitution a lot shorter, and easier to understand

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Originally posted by St_Andrew Taking away all the text from the constitution dealing with the king's powers, would actually make the constitution a lot shorter, and easier to understand

I'm not convinced. Take the paragraph quoted by Yoepus for instance: What it says is not easily rewritten without the abstract notion of some central decision maker, representing the intentions of the nation.