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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN we're not convicts anymore TiestoFanMatt. do your own fvcking homework.

So my expectation of the subject being a rather taboo subject is true .

I know about the facts of what happened, I am just suprised that allot of Australians (according to most materials) are very reluctant to accept that Australia was formed mainly by convicts sent to Australia because they were building up within England. Im interested to see if this is true, and it seems to some it is, and some it isn't.


eRRaTiK: "Whats there to debate?". Well some historians are now saying that Australia was colonized for the purpose of expansion of empire, and for economical benefits, due to the reports of Australia having a good amount of timber and flax, which would be useful for ship building. There is also evidence to suggest that strategically, Australia was ideally situated for an attack upon the spanish provinces, being on their blind side.

narcism: The Portugese and Dutch had both been to Australia. The Portugese actually laid a plate next to a tree that was representative for a "We were here".

The exploration of Australia wasn't that great. For example, the reports that were given to the government indicated the soil to be very rich and good for crops, yet this discovery was made at a diff time of the year than when Philip landed, which was middle of the Australian summer.

2nd pm deakin <--Iv not heard of that, what do you mean?

Well now the majority of the populations origins relate back to sumwhere in asia.

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Originally posted by TiestoFanMatt 2nd pm deakin <--Iv not heard of that, what do you mean?

Our second Prime Minister, Alfred Deakin.

I think the reason we shy away from our convict heritage, is that it is probably blown well out of proportion. If you actually look at numbers, I have no doubt whatsoever that the number of convicts is far less than the number of free settlers that came to Australia (say, in the first 50 or 100 years). So we don't like it, because its not really correct, because you are characterising us on what I'm sure would be a small minority.

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haha this is funny i just accepted we were all convicts

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Originally posted by TiestoFanMatt So my expectation of the subject being a rather taboo subject is true .

oh. it fvcking hurts.
it aint a taboo subject. i just resent lazy fvckers like your good self getting other ppl to do their thinking for them. i might have been a terrible student but at least i did all my own thinking

far from it being taboo i simply think australia's history to be unbelievably boring. snooze for pkc, coz pkc really doesnt care.

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Originally posted by TiestoFanMatt are very reluctant to accept that Australia was formed mainly by convicts sent to Australia because they were building up within England. Im interested to see if this is true, and it seems to some it is, and some it isn't.

firstly, its coz its not entirely true. there were many reasons why Oz was chosen to be the next big thing in english colonialsm. never underestimate the notion(s) of empire building that also played a part in colonisation.

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Originally posted by TiestoFanMatt Well some historians are now saying that Australia was colonized for the purpose of expansion of empire, and for economical benefits, due to the reports of Australia having a good amount of timber and flax, which would be useful for ship building. There is also evidence to suggest that strategically, Australia was ideally situated for an attack upon the spanish provinces, being on their blind side.

see! there you go. some thought. i can see youve been reading similar books to my good self several years ago

and i had to listen to fvcking house tnite. wheres the fvcking justice?

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oh. it fvcking hurts.<--

it aint a taboo subject. i just resent lazy fvckers like your good self getting other ppl to do their thinking for them. i might have been a terrible student but at least i did all my own thinking

Lazy fvuckers? Haha I just wanted to know what you all thought, soon as my lecturer seems to believe the mention of convict is recieved in a rather hostile way when discussion Australian roots.

far from it being taboo i simply think australia's history to be unbelievably boring. snooze for pkc, coz pkc really doesnt care. <-- Oh well difference of opinion.

firstly, its coz its not entirely true. there were many reasons why Oz was chosen to be the next big thing in english colonialsm. never underestimate the notion(s) of empire building that also played a part in colonisation.

<---Well I disagree, there is to me enough evidence to suggest otherwise.I agree that what you are talking about did happen, but it was not that reason why Britain decided to set sail with a ship full of convicts (or felons).

see! there you go. some thought. i can see youve been reading similar books to my good self several years ago < Thanks, I like to try and get a objective look upon the subject

and i had to listen to fvcking house tnite. wheres the fvcking justice? <--- There is none, I feel sorry for u

^^ gah!

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Originally posted by TiestoFanMatt So my expectation of the subject being a rather taboo subject is true .

This isn't true. Most Australians would be more than happy to claim convict ancestry. In fact if the number who claim it are right, it would have needed every ship in the world to get the convicts here. !!