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Sykonee
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada

1992
Dance 2 Trance - P.ower Of A.merican N.atives (Vocal Mix)

Possibly the first vocal trance track to gain commercial success (in Canada, anyways).

Heck, that just might be the first vocal trance track, period.


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Old Post Oct-24-2005 16:33  Canada
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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by WingDing
1995
Groundbreaking?:
Robert Miles - Children
umm...nope. I wouldn't say so. what ground did it break? taking eurodance and bringing that popular sensibility to trance? that's not breaking ground.


Yes it is. It took trance and altered the established template, introducing a focus on melodic lead and an uplifting emphasis. Sure, there were other uplifting, melodic tracks before Children (despite another Ishkur generalisation) but they were just tweaks on the recognised trance formula, where as Children took it to a further level of removal from the root sound of trance.

Because of the huge change that Children ushered in for the trance scene, denying its historical importance, for good or bad, is stupid, especially as you seem to be dismissing it because you don't like the track.

And I'm pretty sure that isn't Radagast. The writing style and personality is totally different. Clearly there's more than one arrogant classic trance elitist in the jungle.


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montana
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: södertälje. sweden

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
And I'm pretty sure that isn't Radagast. The writing style and personality is totally different. Clearly there's more than one arrogant classic trance elitist in the jungle.


it can be, he can have changed it tho


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by montana
it can be, he can have changed it tho


Nope. I see him post daily on another forum, and it's the same concoction of ironic-spam and steely intellectualism as ever. The guy would never use "n00b" or "hahahaha".


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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Brooklyn, NY

n00bs. I knew it was him as soon as I saw his first post in the "House.." thread. Yes, simply on account of his 'location' 'registration' and house preferance, I can forthwith tell who it is. Call me a clairvoyant, if you will. Anyway, what the fuck do you care if it is or isn't him or her? And why should he eschew ta? He's one of the only members that I don't mind reading some of his posts, even if I'm not interested in his electro samples, as I don't listen to electro as a rule. At least he (usually) doesn't post the selfsame trite nonsense I'm wont to reading here interminably...

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Soeder
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Oslo, Norway

1995: Robert Miles - Children
1996: Mass In Orbit - Connect (Satellit Mix)
1997: Jet Set & Plastic Angel - Lost In Trance
1998: Push - Universal Nation
Aquaplex meets Junk Project - Brightness
1999: Junk Project - Control
Dutch Force - Deadline
2000: PHrenetic System - Intensity
Cloud 69 - Sixty Nine Ways
2001: Gaia - 4 Elements
System F Ft. Armin Van Buuren - Exhale
2002: Plastic Boy - Silver Bath
Matanka - Lost In a Dream (Push Remix)
2003: Lili Haydn - Anything (Gabriel & Dresden E-String Club Mix)
Ferry Corsten - Rock Your Body Rock
2004: Tilt - The World Doesn't Know
Kobee - Endless Thoughts
Mirco De Govia - Voller Sterne
2005: Jonas Steur - Silent Waves
Markus Schulz Feat Departure - Without You Near
Mike Foyle - For Your Eyes Only (Original Mix)


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montana
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: södertälje. sweden

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Nope. I see him post daily on another forum


ishkur forum?

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
and it's the same concoction of ironic-spam and steely intellectualism as ever. The guy would never use "n00b" or "hahahaha".


oh please, it's him, he just uses a dumbed down speak because to fake the illusion that he left. and the hints that it's him can be found if you look closely in his post


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Location: Brooklyn, NY

quote:
Originally posted by montana
and the hints that it's him can be found if you look closely in his post


But the crux of the matter is that only fools need to look closely whilst one ought to discern who it is in the first post he'd ever made. Even if it had been a simple "Yes" or "No" post. Oh man, why do I even bother...

Old Post Oct-24-2005 19:47  Israel
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montana
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quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
But the crux of the matter is that only fools need to look closely whilst one ought to discern who it is in the first post he'd ever made. Even if it had been a simple "Yes" or "No" post. Oh man, why do I even bother...


i was just explaining, i knew it from the start that it was him, i mean, how obvious could be


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radagast = aiwendil i thought

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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

Radagast = muckluck = Aiwendiel = WingDing?


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Jordan Stevens
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Las Vegas, Nv

my time line

92-96 96-99 2000 2001 2002 2003 04-05
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good awsome great cool good ehhh.. shit


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