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Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef Only idiots would dismiss a whole film based on one scene. Its apparent in most of the video that its all an act... the French reporters even admitted to it! The site thats hosting this video has the raw footage available to download as well. WELCOME TO PALLYWOOD

Right.... lets just beleive all those explosions and ambulances and dead palestinians are an act.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King Right.... lets just beleive all those explosions and ambulances and dead palestinians are an act.

if its not... i gotta give it to the palestinians for being so fuckin messed up that they smile, laugh and celebrate when their brothers and sisters are "allegedly" being killed! Is it me or is that just a little twisted.

i suggest you get your money back from your film classes Kaveh

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Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef if its not... i gotta give it to the palestinians for being so fuckin messed up that they smile, laugh and celebrate when their brothers and sisters are "allegedly" being killed! Is it me or is that just a little twisted. i suggest you get your money back from your film classes Kaveh

I see them crying and screaming. Maybe you are watching too much ILAN:TV

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Okay... I'm confused... What the fuck was the point of that? Big waste of time.

these two must be great actors then, perhaps they should get an acadamy award?

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the video defeats itself. The video argues that truth can only be found in the larger context. Yet provides no larger context to itself. In the original news version the context is a man shooting into a hole, and this video moves that context out about 100 meters. What's the context when you move out 1000kms?

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Originally posted by tathi these two must be great actors then, perhaps they should get an acadamy award?

There is a report out concluding that this man was killed by Palestinian gunfire for the camara. there is an investigative video/report on the shooting. slow motion and close up determine the bullet came from a different direction then the Israeli military was set up. Believe what you want... just be aware that other truths exist.

i'll look for it and try and post it here

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Heres a start:

1 ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhamm...rah#Controversy

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...radio interview Jeambar and Leconte described the original reports that Israelis shot al-Durrah as "false", though they reiterated their earlier statements that there was no reason to believe the death of Muhammad al-Durrah had been faked. Jeambar did note, however, that 24 minutes of the footage consisted of nothing but Palestinian youths faking being wounded and then running off, and ambulances evacuating uninjured people.[18], but he explained that this part was minutes before the death of al-Durrah.[19]

2 ) http://backspin.typepad.com/backspi...ura_video_.html

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New Dura video questions raised Questions about the video’s veracity have lingered ever since the fateful September 30, 2000 shootout. * First, Esther Shapira produced on German TV "Three Bullets and a Child: Who Killed Mohammed Dura?" The hour-long documentary was the first media investigation. Shapira found that it wasn't possible that Dura was killed by IDF fire. James Fallows in The Atlantic subsequently came to the same conclusion.(*) * Later reports in Readers Digest and the Wall Street Journal suggested that much of the footage was faked.(*) France 2 continues to maintain that the footage, for which cameraman Talal Abu Rahma received an award, is genuine. But one French MP is calling for a government inquiry into the affair.

(*)Links to the reports available through the site

3 ) http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialR...E20050113a.html

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French TV Allegedly Using Threats to Avert Fraud Probe Independent media analysts in France and Israel have provided what they call conclusive evidence that the video of the incident was staged and at least one member of the French Assembly has called for an official investigation of the episode, but France 2 has so far refused to undertake a comprehensive inquiry.

4 ) http://www.gamla.org.il/english/war/dura2.htm

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German TV station: Mohammed Al-Durra killed by Palestinians ...the Palestinian cameraman, Talal Abu Rachman, who filmed the death of Mohammed A-Dura, only provided a few minutes of his film for broadcast and the service that received it released less than a minute of the footage. In addition, a large rock that blocked the view of A-Dura and his father from the field of vision of IDF forces was replaced by "someone" overnight by a flat rock.

DONT YOU SEE HOW MUCH PALLYWOOD MEANS TO THE "PALESTINIAN CAUSE"!
THE IMAGES WE SEE ARE A BUNCH OF POLITICALLY DRIVEN SNAPSHOTS WHICH SELL JUST AS GOOD AS PORN.

This is just another reason to hate France!

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This is just another reason to hate France!

are you capable of expressing anything other than hate?

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There is a report out concluding that this man was killed by Palestinian gunfire for the camara. there is an investigative video/report on the shooting. slow motion and close up determine the bullet came from a different direction then the Israeli military was set up. Believe what you want... just be aware that other truths exist.

yes i've seen a very good non-partisan documentary on the issue that covered it from all angles, it didn't make any absolute "conclusions" but it left no doubt in my mind that claims such as the above are spurious at best.

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Originally posted by tathi are you capable of expressing anything other than hate?

are you able to focus on anything besides my hate for stupidity?

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Originally posted by tathi yes i've seen a very good non-partisan documentary on the issue that covered it from all angles, it didn't make any absolute "conclusions" but it left no doubt in my mind that claims such as the above are spurious at best.

and what very good non-partisan documentary on the issue that covered it from all angles did you see?

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TATHI..... the above post was for you!

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It does look as though in that incident there was a bit of acting involved. But I don't think the guy getting shot in the leg was one of them. There definatly was (unless some really advanced technique was used) bullets coming in on him. Even though the insta-abmbulance looks a bit funny.


The hospital shell damage was bull-shit however.

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