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one of my biggest pet peeves is when someone calls EDM techno...just grates on my nerves. it's like me calling metal, punk, goth, alternative all rock; yes they're derivatives but come on now.

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Seems like most of you know what Trance is, but to know what Techno is you need to go back to 1994,1995.
I believe Techno has started in Germany. Short after this another name appeared: "RAVE", more aggressive and faster.
To my view both of these melted together. Sometimes called Rave, sometimes called Techno. Small differences in rhythm, tempo and instruments could make a track more Rave or Techno.

Good (old) Techno examples are:

Tom Wilson - Techno Cat (who didn't dance on it?)
Moby - Feeling So Real
Star Wash - Disco Fans
Celvin Rotan - I Believe
Westbam
Marusha
Scooter
Mark'Oh
Technohead
DJ Hooligan
Members Of Mayday
Sequential One

Also in the Club's a dance style developed. A style typical for Techno. You cannot dance like this on a Rave of Trance track. I believe this made a clear difference 20 years ago.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Seems like most of you know what Trance is, but to know what Techno is you need to go back to 1994,1995. I believe Techno has started in Germany. Short after this another name appeared: "RAVE", more aggressive and faster. To my view both of these melted together. Sometimes called Rave, sometimes called Techno. Small differences in rhythm, tempo and instruments could make a track more Rave or Techno. Good (old) Techno examples are: Tom Wilson - Techno Cat (who didn't dance on it?) Moby - Feeling So Real Star Wash - Disco Fans Celvin Rotan - I Believe Westbam Marusha Scooter Mark'Oh Technohead DJ Hooligan Members Of Mayday Sequential One Also in the Club's a dance style developed. A style typical for Techno. You cannot dance like this on a Rave of Trance track. I believe this made a clear difference 20 years ago.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Seems like most of you know what Trance is, but to know what Techno is you need to go back to 1994,1995. I believe Techno has started in Germany. Short after this another name appeared: "RAVE", more aggressive and faster. To my view both of these melted together. Sometimes called Rave, sometimes called Techno. Small differences in rhythm, tempo and instruments could make a track more Rave or Techno. Good (old) Techno examples are: Tom Wilson - Techno Cat (who didn't dance on it?) Moby - Feeling So Real Star Wash - Disco Fans Celvin Rotan - I Believe Westbam Marusha Scooter Mark'Oh Technohead DJ Hooligan Members Of Mayday Sequential One Also in the Club's a dance style developed. A style typical for Techno. You cannot dance like this on a Rave of Trance track. I believe this made a clear difference 20 years ago.

oh dude you totally misunderstood. the style you are refering to is not techno. that is hardcore/happyhardcore/gabber and had a great success in germany and benelux in the mid 90s. compilations such as Thunderdome and Gabber Nation were some of the famous back then.
all those names you mentioned were among those from this hardcore/gabber area.

techno is something completely different and have its roots in Detroit and was created by Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson.
Some early influenced european techno djs are Tomas P Heckman, Chris Liebing, Dave Clarke.

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oh dude you totally misunderstood. the style you are refering to is not techno. that is hardcore/happyhardcore/gabber and had a great success in germany and benelux in the mid 90s. compilations such as Thunderdome and Gabber Nation were some of the famous back then. all those names you mentioned were among those from this hardcore/gabber area. techno is something completely different and have its roots in Detroit and was created by Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson. Some early influenced european techno djs are Tomas P Heckman, Chris Liebing, Dave Clarke.

Not as totally as you think:

"Techno Cat" is absolutely no hardcore/ not even happy hardcore and totally not gabber. The same for "I Believe". The styles you mention are Dutch, while Techno (for Europe) was a German invention.
It's true that some of the names tried different styles, but that was mainly because of the fact that styles changed (go with the flow).
I believe you have been shopping in Holland and forgot to look at the neighbours, Germany.

If you can read German read this:

http://www.techno.de/news/specials/...referat-01.html
www.techno.de


By the way, like the article says, the early Techno doesn't sound like what we would call Techno nowadays. The equipment just wasn't good enough in those days. Juan Atkins and Richard Davis made the first Techno, but that was just the start. I wouldn't call a T-Ford a car nowadays, allthough it was the first car build in huge numbers.

Maybe you should listen to some early German techno (Kraftwerk) and some years later 1990- ,then I'll listen to some Juan Atkins and Richard Davis..................

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Originally posted by RebeL9 Some early influenced european techno djs are Tomas P Heckman, Chris Liebing, Dave Clarke.

How dare you not mention Sven Väth? Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he one of the European techno pioneers who who brought techno from Detroit to Europe?

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go with mauro picotto.. technolicious

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Originally posted by Trance-MB By the way, like the article says, the early Techno doesn't sound like what we would call Techno nowadays. The equipment just wasn't good enough in those days. Juan Atkins and Richard Davis made the first Techno, but that was just the start. I wouldn't call a T-Ford a car nowadays, allthough it was the first car build in huge numbers. Maybe you should listen to some early German techno (Kraftwerk) and some years later 1990- ,then I'll listen to some Juan Atkins and Richard Davis..................

I know the german scene pretty well myself since I started to listen to trance out of the german sound.
of ourse techno today doesn't sound like the old techno. Neither does the trance today compared to the early days trance or todays hiphop compared to the 80s hiphop. That is logical.
But still some of the groups you mentioned such as Scooter, Mark'Oh and Sequential One got nothing to do with techno at all. It's like telling a kid that trance today is Crazy Frog.
In other hands there were lots of germans which did produce techno such as Oliver Lieb, Mijk van Dijk, Sven Väth, Kid Paul, Schallbau etc. And that is what I would call early german techno.

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But still some of the groups you mentioned such as Scooter, Mark'Oh and Sequential One got nothing to do with techno at all.

That's your own opinion. Say that in Germany....

Ever checked Scooter's site?

www.scootertechno.com

A strange choice of words if it has nothing to do with Techno, not?
Listen to the music which starts wenn you open their site. To me that is what I call Techno, that is the rhythm which blasted out of the trucks of the Love Parades in Berlin and the MayDay events.
That rhythm is still the same as in 1994 and will last for years.

Did you know Scooter started with Trance?
Both of the other tracks of the Hyper Hyper single (1994) were released at Trance Nation cd's.


The mid 90's was the time that Techno explode and became noticed all over the world.

One question I missed in this topic after the question "What is Techno?"

Do you mean the beginning, where it still was underground or the moment when it became huge and 1000's of tracks were released?


Laszlo: I agree Sven Väth should be mentioned.

Personally I think Sven never went commercial and always was very progressive, which is good for music development. Allthough maybe he made more commercial tracks under a different name, I didn't check. (Jam & Spoon, Westbam and Ferry Corsten did that a couple of times.)

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music isn't defined by the website it's on or by the compilation it's released on.

"this is trance, why? because it's on this cd here!"

it doesn't work that way.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB That's your own opinion. Say that in Germany.... Ever checked Scooter's site? www.scootertechno.com A strange choice of words if it has nothing to do with Techno, not? Listen to the music which starts wenn you open their site. To me that is what I call Techno, that is the rhythm which blasted out of the trucks of the Love Parades in Berlin and the MayDay events. That rhythm is still the same as in 1994 and will last for years. Did you know Scooter started with Trance? Both of the other tracks of the Hyper Hyper single (1994) were released at Trance Nation cd's.

rofl..I got the tiniest feeling ur about to get chewed down big time this is gonna be so funny ignore me for now

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