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richg101
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Registered: Apr 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by djlithium

If its not on 12" vinyl, its not worth playing.


well...

1. you just hurt a whole lot of peoples feelings with that comment.

2. when these people get to a point where they re good enough to be signed to a proper label like armada/vandit/lostlanguage/magik... they ll remember your attitude and ignore your offers of a record deal.

anyways.. if your label was worth anything surely you would be receiving enough decent demos to not have to put ads in a forum designed for producers to promote their work. if people want a deal that will end in a vinyl release they will send it out to a decent labels like armada etc. just cos your stupid enough to carry on pressing vinyl(that you wont make any money off), it doesnt give your label any more integrity than other small unknown labels who just distribute digital.


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Old Post Nov-08-2005 20:58  England
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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by djlithium
There are fundemental differences between vinyl and any digital playback format for DJ use that when considering the big picture are absolutely critical to the future of dance music as a whole.

Vinyl being the one that provides for that future in a way that many here simply can't understand because they have either short memories are are simply ignorant of the facts.

There is the entire realm of how vinyl sounds when correctly mastered and played back on a sound system such as those one would experience in a decent club or at a large event and how that relates to the musical material intended for presentation over such systems.

Then there is the peformance aspect.

Then there is the cultural impact of all of these factors.

When you look at the big picture, the patterns of history over the past 25 years of dance music and where we are at now, anyone with an objective mind can come to the same conclusion we have at Black Tiger Recordings and the DEJI Council. Vinyl is the ONLY way forward for DJ mixed use and performance.

Live pa's? go to town with whatever makes noise if you will. That's a completely different subject and I am not going to get into it here.

Bahahahaha, please, no more, you're killin' me!!!



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Aquarian
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No, please go on, I'm enjoying this.

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maybe point this guy in the direction of 'lord of bass' ?


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Aquarian
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quote:
Originally posted by richg101
maybe point this guy in the direction of 'lord of bass' ?


Actually he's already signed. He's on audiojelly even!

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DigiNut
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Is there a limit to how fast the tracks can be? I've got some 176 BPM beauties that I think would be perfect for your label. Sometimes I like to make them so fast that the kick drum starts resonating and generating overtones, and then keep it like that for 3½ minutes. That's really cool.


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djlithium, I really hate to say anything negative to any label, especially since I am an aspiring producer (but then again, I rarely make a track faster then 135 bpm so why should I care what you think?)

You come off rather arrogant.

Have you ever considered that Paul Van Dyk, the #1 voted DJ uses all digital media in ALL his dj sets?

You must realize that a lot of the producers here (including myself) have been around for a long time, have had multiple offers and even releases on *smaller* labels, we aren't impressed with A&R people that try to talk down to us, especially from labels we've never heard of or likely to ever hear of due to their limit scope of 140+ bpm cheesy trance styles.

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Location: birmingham, uk

quote:
Originally posted by djlithium
There are fundemental differences between vinyl and any digital playback format for DJ use that when considering the big picture are absolutely critical to the future of dance music as a whole.

Vinyl being the one that provides for that future in a way that many here simply can't understand because they have either short memories are are simply ignorant of the facts.

There is the entire realm of how vinyl sounds when correctly mastered and played back on a sound system such as those one would experience in a decent club or at a large event and how that relates to the musical material intended for presentation over such systems.

Then there is the peformance aspect.

Then there is the cultural impact of all of these factors.

When you look at the big picture, the patterns of history over the past 25 years of dance music and where we are at now, anyone with an objective mind can come to the same conclusion we have at Black Tiger Recordings and the DEJI Council. Vinyl is the ONLY way forward for DJ mixed use and performance.

Live pa's? go to town with whatever makes noise if you will. That's a completely different subject and I am not going to get into it here.


i like you

you have balls

i like balls


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quote:
Originally posted by djlithium

Then there is the peformance aspect.

Then there is the cultural impact of all of these factors.



Please elaborate


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djlithium
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quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
djlithium, I really hate to say anything negative to any label, especially since I am an aspiring producer (but then again, I rarely make a track faster then 135 bpm so why should I care what you think?)

You come off rather arrogant.

Have you ever considered that Paul Van Dyk, the #1 voted DJ uses all digital media in ALL his dj sets?

You must realize that a lot of the producers here (including myself) have been around for a long time, have had multiple offers and even releases on *smaller* labels, we aren't impressed with A&R people that try to talk down to us, especially from labels we've never heard of or likely to ever hear of due to their limit scope of 140+ bpm cheesy trance styles.


Thank you for your comment. Yes I do come off rather arrogant in a day and age where one can't say "daft" without fear of a liable suit. So screw you if you think that. I don't care. All I care about here is working with new producers who deserve the chance to be heard and an opportunity to get a record pressed because their tracks do the talking not marketing dollars shoved around in magazines "topthisandthatpolls" which are little more than popularity contests and have absolutely fuck all to do with reality. PVD can suck it okay?!

No really. I don't like the guy. But here is something. If he is so hell bent on being all digital then why does vandit still put out records???

BECAUSE THEY SELL!
I have a few tunes licensed off Vandit to other labels and pressed on vinyl in my crate. But that doesn't mean I have to fucking kiss PVD's digital ass. I don't think he deserves any "#1" status at all. Frankly that's part of the fucking problem with where things are at right now. Number 1 DJ?? What kind of lubestroke is that all about??
Dumb asses. Get a fucking grip. You fall for that shit?? holy "brand" whore batman! give your head a shake!!!

You are all whining about this shit because you are slackers and don't want to pay for music but will smile and say "rocking track man" to some guy with some tracks who really needs some objective commentary about his works and not some pat on the back from suckheads who can barely keep two tunes together in a mix and out of the ditches mixed off a glorified calculator armed with a CD burner.
You are the types that will take some guys toon only if its free and lie through your teeth about how you are going to play it and pump him up and help to break that artist through, but in reality the only real meal deal evaluation that still works in providing an artist with an indication that their stuff is good, and has value - is if you slap down cold hard cash and walk away with the hard copy on wax and play it in your sets, your gigs and have it in your crate, and then come back to them and say "dude, that rocked, I want more, when is it going to happen?"

That's how the business for dance music fucking works you ****s.

PVD is god because he is number one and he plays digital so that means that the future?? give it fucking rest. Digital fuckwit.
The more you go down that path the lessser chance there is going to be for more "number one djs of the year" because dance music will have sold itself out so badly, its disco 2.0 all over again.

Short sighted fucking idiots.


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FuzzyGreen
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quote:
Originally posted by djlithium
PVD can suck it okay?!


I really doubt you would feel that way if PVD wanted to release a CD on your label, unless you really dislike sales.

quote:

You are all whining about this shit because you are slackers and don't want to pay for music but will smile and say "rocking track man" to some guy with some tracks who really needs some objective commentary about his works and not some pat on the back from suckheads who can barely keep two tunes together in a mix and out of the ditches mixed off a glorified calculator armed with a CD burner.


You really should study up on the people you are talking to here. I for one only dj vinyl, and only because I prefer it to digital media in terms of ease of mixing. I'm not so stupid as to put down any other dj's because they prefer digial. And to call me someone that doesn't want to pay for a track is downright wrong and judgemental on your part. You don't know me nor the people of this forum and you are coming off as an arrogant prick that thinks he's hot cause he works for a label. dude, face it you are an ecstacy over used burn out that is too grumpy.

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richg101
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your too grumpy for your own good. you need to chill and enjoy some more laid back trance. all those extra bpm's must be goin to your head!

seriously tho, search: 'lord of bass'

he's probably just the man your after...


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