Dude, I am almost counting on being that old when I graduate. I know I am in a program right now that I like. I am hoping i finish, but I am preparing just in case I switch yet again.

I honestly hope I end up being 50 years old and having worked in a bunch of different jobs. That way i can truly be the well rounded person who I think I am today.

Remember, as an intelligent provocative individual, you should not have to confine yourself to one path in life.

The advice i got from my older sis was soo different. She said suck it up, pick something, finish, and worry about what you love later. I do not agree with that, because I am the type of person who cannot go along with something if my heart isn't in it. I was on my way to having tonnes of money; good grades in an accounting program, and guaranteed job with an accounting firm when i leave school.

Passion is what drives us, don't let anybody take that away from you. No matter how much logic and financial bullshit they throw at you.

Yeah. I was pushed by that sort of thing in the beginning too, coinage at the end of the line. It's not that important to me to be making huge sums of money if I hate my job. I watched my dad go to a job he disliked 5 days a week until about 4 years ago when he made a complete career change and now he's the happiest bastard I know.

I just switched to Peace and Conflict Studies program at Waterloo. Brand new. I think I'm the first guy taking it as a major. (Switched from history)

I know what I want to be pretty much after uni. So, might as well take the program that you think you'd enjoy.

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My brother took marketing at sheridan, finished, then worked as a marketing coordinator for 2 years. Quit, and started a landscaping business. Hes been doing that for about 3 years now and its his baby, still growing, but its mostly a summer thing. Even with that, my brother still isnt sure what he wants to do. Hes 26.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Damn. Thanks Bobby, that's pretty uplifting. One of my big concerns was that I'll be like 25-26 when I graduate, which sucks, but as you said if I get there and it's worthwhile, who gives a shit?

what's the rush dude? its better to take a couple of extra years to do something that you truely want to do than to rush through something and be stuck with some crappy degree that's going to get you a job that you're going to hate doing for the rest of your life. it's not a matter of when you get there, just that you get there.

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4 years of chemical engineering - how i wish i had done somthing different....

its all so clear in hindsight

Every university program is BS, Cale. You have to realize that undergraduate programs are a means to an end, not an end in themselves.

Post-graduate studies are where it gets interesting, if you choose to do that. Until then, I would really suggest you finish what you started, because after your 4 years, it's what's written on that piece of paper that matters, not how much fun you had getting it. A business degree will open up many more doors for you than a garden-variety BA. Switching programs again (and especially into journalism) is just throwing away money; no offense to the journalists here, but you all know what you got yourselves into.

Yes, I know it sucks, but sometimes you have to take it up the ass for a while in order to live the dream later.

Irrespective of my personal feelings on Queen's, the business folk always get wide-eyed when I tell them that's where I got my degree, and that's what it's all about when you hit the working world - image.

I feel your pain dude, I really do. At one point I had considered switching programs as well, but a year and a half after graduation I am *very* glad that I finished off.

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Exactly, there's a fine line between hating what you're doing, and hating doing schoolwork in general. I'm damn lazy so all my school hating probably stems from that fact.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Every university program is BS, Cale. You have to realize that undergraduate programs are a means to an end, not an end in themselves.

Listen to what Digi said. I agree with him.

From a career perspective undergraduate degrees and college diplomas serve one purpose: to get you your FIRST FEW jobs (jobs within your first 3 to 5 years after graduation and that's it).

Unless you want to be a "professional" (doctor, lawyer, engineer, accountant, scientist, teacher - all which require post grad work/professional designation) your degree or diploma can be in ANYTHING.

Employers are risking quite a bit by hiring people with no work experience. The fact that one has gone through the process of acquiring a degree/dimploma shows they have the ability to learn (which is probably the key success factor for a new employee). Over 80% of one's career/work knowledge will not come from their education but from their work experience (on the job learning).

The longer that someone is out of school and the more -successful- work experience someone has the LESS relevant the degree/diploma becomes. Sure, employers will still look to see if it is there but it's value and it's influence in the hiring process diminishes significantly over one's working life (thus the reason you see liberal arts people working in all areas of business in later life).

You'd be surprised how -hard- it is to find good employees (not great employees, not amazing employees - just good). Having hired (many) and fired (some) finding someone who fits within an organization, performs their tasks with excellence and fulfills their responsibilities completely is so damn hard. The educational aspect of an employee is only one of the variables - a variable that diminishes in value as an employee has a greater base of performance criteria to evaluate.

Bottom line - unless you want a "profession" (something which requires -specific- educational training/designation) I would think long and hard before spending more money and more time by changing programs.

*phew* That was long winded. Sorry.

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I don't think you should be too concerned with when you graduate, so long as you graduate with something.
I've been struggling through my CS program for a couple of years now. I was supposed to graduate two years ago, and I'm not even in class now. I've gotten through three years of it, but so slowly and am so behind that I need another year and a half to graduate. All things considering, I'll probably be 25 when I graduate. Still though, you have a nice, solid 40 years of work after that, so what's the hurry now? It's worth it to take your time and do something you might actually enjoy.