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Originally posted by trewqy Armin= too boring and fluffy Once u hear one set from him, u've heard em all. Tiesto's sets are just sub standard for a top DJ. Poor transitions, same old track selection(mostly his stuff), and really doesnt do much in terms of innovation in terms of DJing.

So all the new tracks I heard this year by Armin (Yes, I heard new ones in other sets too, but I also heard new productions in some of his) don't actually exist? Sure you can hear some of the same songs in his sets, but if that kind of music is your style, it sounds good.

I will agree that Tiesto doesn't seem to be as creative, and he really does play his productions out heavily. Regardless, he still has fun music to listen to here and there. I honestly haven't heard a damn thing from him this year. I don't think I have a single new set by him, and definetly no productions. Which furthermore proves that the DJ Magazine contest is truly popularity, but that was also proven through the awesome Mikey experiment.

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Originally posted by Ek0nomik also proven through the awesome Mikey experiment.

speaking of which, has TA's newly crowned sex idol posted a "thank you" thread yet?

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Originally posted by Clovis86 I would say listen to what you love, but variety is the spice of life...dont be afraid to try something new... ...there is ALOT out there...its endless...ASOT is not the be all end all of trance.

Listen to him, here's your answer

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Originally posted by djallure Listen to him, here's your answer

I don't think that necessarily relates to the topic starters question.

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Originally posted by ambrus07 i posted a similar topic a while ago and got flamed for my 'narrow scope' my uneducated choice of music and my lack of knowledge of obsucre producers. so now i've come to accept that there is a silent majority on TA who love Armin Ferry and Tiesto (and their ilk) above all else while also listening to prog/techno/breaks/whatever. It's just that it's not 'cool' to say how kickass that last ASOT or ISOS CD was because regular people buy those too. It's much cooler to publicly promote obsucre producers of off genres of trance (the more you can list, the better... all their aliases dating back to ~1965 too!) and be a closet fan. (apologies to those to whom this does not apply, I know you're out there too) bottom line is, all the people who love tiesto and armin got flamed into oblivion (remeber the tiesto hate parade a few years ago?), so now few of them post anymore, leaving techno and prog aficionados to rule the place. but don't believe they're gone.. have a look at the TA top 100!

Good post.

I was actually surprised (albeit slightly disgusted) with the TA top 100, considering the amount of EDM-Nazis on here... but I suppose there aren't actually a lot of those people around; they just make more posts and make more of a scene in every thread.

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Originally posted by ambrus07 It's just that it's not 'cool' to say how kickass that last ASOT or ISOS CD was because regular people buy those too. It's much cooler to publicly promote obsucre producers of off genres of trance (the more you can list, the better... all their aliases dating back to ~1965 too!) and be a closet fan. (apologies to those to whom this does not apply, I know you're out there too)

Considering the fact that the terms "EDM Nazi" and "haters" get thrown around so much, it's obvious that the majority of ASOT listeners and Tiesto fans do not give two shits about whether it's "cool" to like these things or not. Why would there be such a massive clash of opinions here if the ASOT and Tiesto fans did not express how much they love the stuff?

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I think maybe theres an element of "tall poppy syndrome" at work too.

Each to their own though, people shouldnt be closeting any support of a particular artist simply because others dont like them.

Well..there's trance, and then there's the stuff Armin/Tiesto play.

It's somewhat analogous to how there's sushi.......and then there's california rolls.

If you don't understand....I give you about nine months.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Well..there's trance, and then there's the stuff Armin/Tiesto play. It's somewhat analogous to how there's sushi.......and then there's california rolls. If you don't understand....I give you about nine months.

lol...I hate california rolls.

When I hear a no-name DJ craft a trance set equally on par with your typical Tiestin van Corstenfolds, it begs the question what they've got that No-Name doesn't.

And the answer is... MARK-ET-ING.

This is where a large amount of 'hate' gets thrown at the superstar DJs. Through the sheer power of their Publicity Teams, they have mangaged to create a deity-like aura around them, reducing the dance-music experience to spectating as you go to see them, ************ of the music. Yes, you have to at least enjoy what they play to some extent, but there are countless folks out there that play damned near identical stuff. The only difference is they are not celebrities.

Folks who enjoy the music for it's own sake see the Cirque de Tiesto experience as ludicrus.

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Originally posted by Sykonee When I hear a no-name DJ craft a trance set equally on par with your typical Tiestin van Corstenfolds, it begs the question what they've got that No-Name doesn't. And the answer is... MARK-ET-ING.

add to that their productions. tiesto wouldnt be half the "star" he is without his artist albums. granted his earlier mix albums were good too but it was flight 643 and traffic and all that shit he plays in every single one of his sets that his fans go to see him for. the sad thing is theyre going to see him spin his own tracks, not play them.

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Originally posted by allcentury18 but you push prog on people. and i think you're niave if you say you're broadening peoples tastes...

FYI, Clovasha is one of the many TA's who consistently makes fun of me for spinning prog...

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