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Soeder
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Registered: Apr 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by montana
ish, what he said is the term "mp3 reconstruction"

is that really illegal (if u don't make money of it)?


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Ishkur
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Location: Vancouver, BC

quote:
Originally posted by montana
ish, what he said is the term "mp3 reconstruction"


If it's an mp3, I would call it a rip.

Don't call it a Reconstruction. Because that will confuse things like the Pump Panel Reconstruction of New Order's Confusion, which sounds nothing like the original, and is not an mp3 bootleg rip.

Old Post Nov-17-2005 21:24  Canada
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Remix - Basically starting from scratch. You have to obtain the multi-track from the studio (i.e. artist/label permission). The multi track is the original song in its raw form. The remixer may take all the these parts or a few and start building from there by adding or taking away elements.

Reconstruction - I truthfully don't know what this is. Some people think that it is a remix that has never been released and someone tries to reconstruct the remix him/herself. An illegal bootleg. This is NOT the meaning of reconstruction. This term has been around way before the mp3 digital age and I've seen it written on old records and I know a defintion exists.

Mashups - Two songs put together in such a creative way that they sound like one different song altogether.

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Wyndham
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
If it's an mp3, I would call it a rip.

Don't call it a Reconstruction. Because that will confuse things like the Pump Panel Reconstruction of New Order's Confusion, which sounds nothing like the original, and is not an mp3 bootleg rip.


it is an mp3 rip from a set, but because its from a set theres no lead in or lead out since its mixed in/out of another song. So when u download a radio rip before the release, its always a cut down version of the song, first and last 128 beats are missing for example... the odd time some amateur producers take samples from within the song and recreate the lead in/out so its kind of a full rip instead of a cut up one, or maybe even recreate the whole song but i doubt it.

an example is FB - who's knocking. there were rips, then there was a reconstruction by indigo boy?? lol whoever he is, then there was the cd/vinyl release and the full/proper rips were taken from that or the promo.

They dont come out that often but thats what i always knew a reconstruction as.

Old Post Nov-18-2005 00:22  England
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Belgian Bonzai
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quote:
Originally posted by tranceaddict674
Thank you. What about like Song - Song (Blah Mix) or Song - Song (Blah Remix) is there any difference? And what is a dub?

Remix is more often made by a totally different producer, where Mix is usually far closer to the original. Dub usually features less vocals.

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Wyndham
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Registered: Apr 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Belgian Bonzai
Remix is more often made by a totally different producer, where Mix is usually far closer to the original. Dub usually features less vocals.


a remix is just a different version of the original song, usually done by a different producer, but can still be done by the original producer. Its called a remix because the songs have similar elements/sounds but overall it sounds quite different. If a different artists remixes a song, he brings in his sound to it. Like hydroids remix of ferrys new song. Once you kno an artist/music well enough, a lot of the times you can tell who did the song just by listening, because you recognise their style/sound. If it says mix... its also a remix, just a different version done by the artist and usually by the original one.

lol this is pretty easy to understand for whoevers askin the question in the first place... go download a song, original and remix and listen to them... theres your answer

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what about these:

couldharbour reconstruction
powerhouse rework
reedit
[insert name] vision
in search of sunrise remix
magikal remake
[insert name] fix
and the most used: club mix"?


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Wyndham
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by PlasticSoul
what about these:

couldharbour reconstruction
powerhouse rework
reedit
[insert name] vision
in search of sunrise remix
magikal remake
[insert name] fix
and the most used: club mix"?


haha this is gettin crazy now

coldharbour is markus schulz thing, remix
powerhouse rework - see rework above
vision - a remix, i know marco v has used this
in search of.. - see remix above (its a tiesto remix for his cd)
magikal remake, a remix, by tiesto
fix, remix by ferry, his flashover sound.. ie ferry fix
club mix, its just the big room version of the song and the most popular version usually played in clubs.

a lot of artits use other names instead of just remix cause it looks better. And sometimes means its a different sound, like a ferry corsten remix will sound different from a ferry corsten flashover remix or ferry fix. Or tiestos isos remix is going to be a mellowed down version of the song most likely since his isos cds are just chilled out stuff

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tranceaddict674
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Dub?
Live Mash-Ups and Mash-Ups?
Full Reconstruction?
Bootlegs?

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Wyndham
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by tranceaddict674
Dub?
Live Mash-Ups and Mash-Ups?
Full Reconstruction?
Bootlegs?


dub - already listed, apparently you can't read

mash up - learn to read the posts in a thread u started, already listed

live mash up - hmm i wonder what it means if "live" is before "mash up"?? I really can't figure this one.. any help???

bootlegs - mp3 rips from live sets that were recorded or broadcast, unreleased songs.

Old Post Nov-18-2005 06:25  England
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Rebel Brown
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: UK

quote:
Originally posted by Wyndham
bootlegs - mp3 rips from live sets that were recorded or broadcast


Not always true, i.e.

Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit (B.K. Bootleg Mix)

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hooknife
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Registered: Apr 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Wyndham
RECONSTRUCTION - is usually done when someones riped a song from a live set, theres no lead in or out, so someones uses elements from the song (drumbs,kicks,base) and adds a lead in and out, or just redoes the song, so people can burn it/play it well before its released.



10 points for the correct answer!


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