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skywarp
goa trooper



Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Edmonton, AB

Hmm, I guess people who know the least, know it the loudest. Obviously certain individuals here don't think it is necessary to acquire some basic knowledge on the subject they're trying to talk about.

Again, before embarassing yourself you should *really* check www.finalscratch.com and look through the site for a little while. Nobody is playing a set off a laptop, it only acts as storage for audio files and as a playback device - which is controlled through a regular turntable and a FinalScratch record. Mixing is still done by ear, just like vinyl. So if you think that playing a set off FinalScratch is somehow inferior to playing a set off vinyl then you really need to check yourself.

FinalScratch is meant to be used in conjunction with regular vinyl, nobody is trying to replace anything. It is still in development phase and it is being tested by a few DJs (Hawtin and Acquaviva being two that come to mind right now). I have seen them both perform live with FinalScratch and I can assure you, the technique and skill are exactly similar to playing vinyl.


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fastmp3
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Montreal/Canada & Casablanca/Morocco (the ROOTS of TRANCE)

ok now if i understand , instead of taking all your vinyls with you , all you do is having ur laptop with media files and u can have an analog control on them thanks to that "special vinyl" right ? looks extremely nice


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capricorn15
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Registered: May 2001
Location: CA

i would just like to see a dj put effort into the mix, if they were live using a mp3 mixer, that wouldnt be much effort, i know with my mix cds, like i use atomixmp3, and i dont put much effort in, just click match beats and it does it, but if they were using cds instead of vinyls i would be fine with that too, cuz at least they are putting effort, i mean i am paying to see what htey can do, not what hte computer can do for them
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Andrew K
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Salonica, Greece

I just hope 12"s and turntables will stay forever...
I was at a gig with deep dish. They only used cds...
Didn't like this at all. Dj > Disk Jockey... The should call them
Cj or even mp3j :P


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mindbender
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Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Espoo, Finland

hmm weird... I will probably get flamed because of this but I don't think it really matters how the DJ plays his set; using turntables, laptop etc. It's the sound and the feeling that matters to me. I'm there to _hear_ the music, not to see it Besides, most DJs I know just stand there and keep on adjusting the sound settings etc so I don't get any satisfaction seeing that the guy is actually working(?) lol. Furthermore I'd imagine that you have to do lots of pre-work before you actually arrive to the party and play your set so "press one button and that's it" hardly describes the effort. However, a good DJ can read the crowd and see what they like and change the prethought playlist.

So IMO, use a CD, vinyl, laptop, C64 or whatever, as long as you manage to play a great sounding and well-thought set.

My 0.02 €


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xenderz
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Zouk , Singapore

quote:
Originally posted by mindbender
hmm weird... I will probably get flamed because of this but I don't think it really matters how the DJ plays his set; using turntables, laptop etc. It's the sound and the feeling that matters to me. I'm there to _hear_ the music, not to see it Besides, most DJs I know just stand there and keep on adjusting the sound settings etc so I don't get any satisfaction seeing that the guy is actually working(?) lol. Furthermore I'd imagine that you have to do lots of pre-work before you actually arrive to the party and play your set so "press one button and that's it" hardly describes the effort. However, a good DJ can read the crowd and see what they like and change the prethought playlist.

So IMO, use a CD, vinyl, laptop, C64 or whatever, as long as you manage to play a great sounding and well-thought set.

My 0.02 €


I agree with u (so flame me too).
Vesatility is important for DJ, if he suddenly plays a CLASSIC n manages to surprise the crowd and they go totally berserk, who would care if it is vinyl, mp3, cd ?
btw, ritchie hawtin wasn't as good as the previous time he came down.
so thumbs down to the man ... (maybe he was still experimenting with the laptop ?) probably.

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Hank Scorpio
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Registered: Jan 2001
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i dont have a problem with MP3 DJ'ing, i just wouldnt do it
myself, im very much the vinyl purist (love the feel hehe).

however what i object to about mp3 dj'ing (and cddj'ing to an extent)
is the blatently crap attitude of some of them (those who dont get
nice promos). the whole "i wont buy any tunes, ill just download
them off the internet and burn" way of thinking.
Promo CD's are alot harder to get than 12" but that shouldnt be a
problem, get a TT and PC ;p

well thats my bitching done,
Regards,
hS

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Tony Morello
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

after looking through the site and checking out the vids... i think this thing is very cool and a major step forwards in dj technology

for those griping about mp3 djing... take the time to actually look through the site and you'll see that this is more than djing with mp3's off a laptop...

a quote comes to mind... "Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth."


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havok118
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Baltimore, MD

The digital dj's that use licensed music are fine, it doesn't take much talent to mix on a computer, because it can't be done that well, without help of software to do it.

Final scratch is way different than just "pressing a button", like the others said, check it out first.

My main problem with digital dj's is that 99% of the time, they are playing unlicensed music, they didn't purchase it, and they have no right to broadcast it. There is very little sound quality difference, I spin vinyl, and it does sound better, but not way too much. Understand that tracks are DIGITAL before putting it on the analog media, which means the sound is not that different at all.

Analog media is too popular, and I think requires more talent, and the fact remains that most clubs have turntables.


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SP@@KY
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: ThE LiTtLe ReD DoT

i have to agree that it is more than just "pressing a button".

maybe i am nostalgia. i wish dj would keep on playing the classics of the past but i know that would not be very possible. but i wish some things would always remain the same that is the use of the turntables and mixer.

i do not know much about djing. maybe mixing music tru the use of software my not be that easy either. technology is great (else we would not have our mp3) and maybe this software may allow dj to do things that the traditional mixer cant do(I dunno abt this) but some how i feel the human touch is lost.

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JM
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA
Re: Opinon on DJ who dun use vinyl

quote:
Originally posted by SP@@KY

Recently Richie Hawtin's played a set at Zouk singapore Dec 22. He did not use the turntables at all. He was actually using a laptop. He is using a technology called Final Scratch which i read in an article. All he had to do was programme the songs into the computer, select the tunes and play them at the press of a button.


laptop deejays. i totally do not agree with this. it's a bunch of bullshit, although, i've seen more and more deejays use their laptop lazy cheap ass...i mean i dont know what is the deal....

>JM<

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trippennuts
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: May 2002
Location: Waco, Texas

iv got alot of stuff to say about it. Im a dick so I wont go into it.. but to prove how much of a dick I am:

Final Scratch DOES use a "Special Vinyl Plate". which are the same size ect. as vinyl, but are "Blank" so that the music on the laptop can be transfered ect. SO! your wrong


but, i hate dj's who just use cd players

kind of homosexual :/


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-Andrew

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