Uhh... if the shoe fits...? I don't go to raves or massives for the very same reason. Tweakers all around you = the ultimate vibe killer.

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Originally posted by Ishkur Stop caring what other people think of what you do with your free time.

See, the problem with your statement is that the negative ideas that mainstream culture in America has of the EDM scene causes the scene itself to suffer. If there's nothing but media-inspired hyperbole out there about how EVERYONE is on drugs, sexually assualting women, and committing acts of violence (these were some of the statements made following that Utah rave raid in August), no one cares about the government shutting down clubs and raves. Eventually, that will lead to you not being able to do what you want with your free time.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy See, the problem with your statement is that the negative ideas that mainstream culture in America has of the EDM scene causes the scene itself to suffer.

No it doesn't.

You're just not trying hard enough.

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Originally posted by Ishkur No it doesn't. You're just not trying hard enough.

Explain.

My point was that portions of the US government would like to see raves outlawed. By presenting raves in a negative light to the general public, this is more likely. From what I've heard, I missed out on some great clubs in New York because they have been shut down by the government because of the drug connotation (Twilo, Limelight, Exit). I personally don't feel like getting arrested for going to a party to enjoy the music that I enjoy. I guess if my reluctance to get a criminal record for listening to music means I'm not trying hard enough, you're right.

I don't understand what their problem is. Yes, people do drugs at raves. People do drugs at rap parties. People do drugs at home, work, friends house, outside. Nothing is going to stop the drug sence. People just got to be more responsible when they do take drugs at raves and stop O.D.'ing. At least EDM doesn't really promote any of the things rap/hip-hop does.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 ever been to NYC? LA? Chicago? Miami? NYC has fallen off a bit but surely out did any club in any country in the 1990s. With clubs like Twilo, Tunnel, Limelight, Shelter and tons of other lesser known spots.

WHoa, buddy.

I know with the lack of inflection its tough, but i was obviosly being sarcastic... id still rather be clubbing in south america...

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Explain.

You always do what the government says?

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy I guess if my reluctance to get a criminal record for listening to music means I'm not trying hard enough, you're right.

Sometimes you gotta roll the hard six.

No one said partaking in underground, clandestine illegal subcultures was going to be all safe and nice. If you don't like the risk, go back to your movie theatres and shopping malls and carnival rides. This is counter-culture. What did you think you were getting into? Highschool proms with better music?

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Originally posted by Clyde77 people that have no direction in life take drugs.

Where the hell did that came from??




















Seriously, can't figure out your flag.
lol

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Originally posted by david.michael Waaah.

No shit. Chill the fuck out son. Welcome to the way things go 'round.

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http://www.pot-tv.net/archive/shows...howse-2610.html

Guys, watch that video. its 45mins or so. its got peter jennings in it and it basically gives the truth and responsible usage of MDMA. it also talks about the sideffects (or lack thereof) of the chemical, its history, background, and reason for being outlawed (although grossly flawed and unsupported).

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

drugs were taken by human beings since the beginning of time and will ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS been taken by them.

people take drugs for so many different reasons, it's just not possible to put them all together.

and drugs are taken in any social group. of course ravers do drugs and they always have to play the black sheep.

but what about the super models, singers, actors or politicians who take drugs too?

The Beatles took a lot of drugs and possibly written most of their songs on a higher state of mind but today people say they are the biggest band in the history.

Or take Robbie Williams for example. The same girls that cheer for this guy who took drugs for a long time look at you like you are a heroin junkie if you say that you are going to an edm party.


And oh...don't forget that alcohol is a drug too. I always find it funny if a person whose drinking so much alcohol that he couldn't go straight anymore always says that drugs are bad and only losers take them