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Originally posted by -AbsurD- lol...have you tried mixing yet? or you are just one of those who tries to look cool on forums? IT IS possible to perfectly beatmatch. lol

oh i see, you're a professional, and you must not have noticed the blatant irony of your post.

suck my balls.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 I've seen Steve Lawler drop a track in with the fader all the way up and not even touch the platter/pitch during the mix...that is some fucking good beatmatching...

But he must of beatmacthed it before.. otherwise.. it doesnt make sense..

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Originally posted by -AbsurD- lol...have you tried mixing yet? or you are just one of those who tries to look cool on forums? IT IS possible to perfectly beatmatch. lol

No it's not actually. Because the perfect pair of turntables dont exists. there are millions of factors throughout an infinity that could cause 2 tracks to go out of sync.

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Originally posted by -AbsurD- lol...have you tried mixing yet? or you are just one of those who tries to look cool on forums? IT IS possible to perfectly beatmatch. lol

i guess that aplies to you, since you should know that it is in fact impossible to beatmatch so that it never goes out of synch. even on cdplayers.


i prefer to ride the pitch in the headphones so i can focus on eq fx etc during the mix. but i can do both pretty good i guess

guys, its possible, get over it, its simple math, you CAN do it, it might be hard to get it exactly perfect, but u can do it, end of story, stop telling him he's wrong

EDIT: yes there are a lot of factors involved though

i never said that it will NEVER go off... he said that its impossible to beatmatch so the tracks won't go off within 2-3 minutes...

Im saying it is not.

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Originally posted by dj jasonF i guess that aplies to you, since you should know that it is in fact impossible to beatmatch so that it never goes out of synch. even on cdplayers. i prefer to ride the pitch in the headphones so i can focus on eq fx etc during the mix. but i can do both pretty good i guess

w/e

this is a good thread/discussion

very educational for me

thanks
bisco

Never had a problem with EQing and riding the pitch.

When you do it enough, you get into a zone (can't think of a better way to describe it) that's a bit like bullet time in the matrix.
You pay attention to your mix, you adjust if and when you need to and you eq. If you are confident then neither should stress you out as you will do what you need to do and the more you practice DJing the more absurd you will see this thread discussion.

If you EQ your mixes well then there is nothing that's going to happen in a transition that wont allow for a few seconds pitch correction and you can resume once it's done.

I understand it from a younger DJs point of view because when you start out, a mix almost feels like a race against time. This will pass the more you practice.

It takes a while to get from "Fucking hell the record is nearly finished Shiiiiiiiit!" to "Oh look it's nearly finished best sort it then".

Riding the pitch is good as it does allow to make smoother corrections even if it might take a little longer to learn. But then not even all of the top jocks do it so you just got to figure out what works best for you.

When it comes to spinning there are no short cuts, you have to pay your dues and learn from your mistakes. This applies to playing at home as well as playing in clubs.

Edit - with regards to matching perfectly, it can be done but not always. Depends on the quality of the vinyl cut and the position of the centre hole more often. If you have a hole in a record that's slightly off centre you will always have to fight the pitch as the tune has not got an even speed. Sometimes you will get two good records and match it perfectly and you can pretty much sit back and relax and do the rest with the mixer.

People are also obsessed with long mixes, sometimes it's not the tonic. You will get people on the dance floor bored and you need to drop things in quickly to pick up pace and energy. Sometimes it's not enough to rely on the energy of the record alone, you have to help it along. A skill that warm up DJs in particular need to focus on as you don't always get to play the tracks that can excite people if you just mix.

Cheers
Nem

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Last edited by Nemesis44 on Nov-27-2005 at 15:08

you are right but this only aplies to when you want to bring in the bass slowly. but when there is a 1 bar break and you want to switch the low eqs there fast you cant do it if you have to ride the pitch, its gonna suck bad.. there you go.. you just lost a pretty good chance to make a good transision... cuz you know that these two tracks arent good for smooth bass switching.. the kick desapears if you do that..

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Never had a problem with EQing and riding the pitch. When you do it enough, you get into a zone (can't think of a better way to describe it) that's a bit like bullet time in the matrix. You pay attention to your mix, you adjust if and when you need to and you eq. If you are confident then neither should stress you out as you will do what you need to do and the more you practice DJing the more absurd you will see this thread discussion. If you EQ your mixes well then there is nothing that's going to happen in a transition that wont allow for a few seconds pitch correction and you can resume once it's done. I understand it from a younger DJs point of view because when you start out, a mix almost feels like a race against time. This will pass the more you practice. It takes a while to get from "Fucking hell the record is nearly finished Shiiiiiiiit!" to "Oh look it's nearly finished best sort it then". Riding the pitch is good as it does allow to make smoother corrections even if it might take a little longer to learn. But then not even all of the top jocks do it so you just got to figure out what works best for you. When it comes to spinning there are no short cuts, you have to pay your dues and learn from your mistakes. This applies to playing at home as well as playing in clubs. Edit - with regards to matching perfectly, it can be done but not always. Depends on the quality of the vinyl cut and the position of the centre hole more often. If you have a hole in a record that's slightly off centre you will always have to fight the pitch as the tune has not got an even speed. Sometimes you will get two good records and match it perfectly and you can pretty much sit back and relax and do the rest with the mixer. People are also obsessed with long mixes, sometimes it's not the tonic. You will get people on the dance floor bored and you need to drop things in quickly to pick up pace and energy. Sometimes it's not enough to rely on the energy of the record alone, you have to help it along. A skill that warm up DJs in particular need to focus on as you don't always get to play the tracks that can excite people if you just mix. Cheers Nem

great read there, your right, there really is no rights and wrongs when it comes to mixing, just do what you want, if you know your music then you will begin to try new ways (as certain tracks can be mixed differently, depending on the way the track is), you just gotta experiment with what feels good with you, at the end of the day you know if you can mix or not, but it doesnt matter, there really is no rules.

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