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Originally posted by Ryan0751 I hope this is a joke... (actually after re-reading it I'm pretty sure it IS sarcastic, but I'll rant anyway)

I was dead serious.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 You are saying that because the iPod is the same size as an FM radio that it's equivalent in usefulness?

No. I'd rather own a TR1 than an iPod.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 I've had an iPod for over two years now (and haven't had a single problem with it). I used several other MP3 players prior to the iPod, and they were all so much more difficult to operate and populate with music. I'm no idiot, try driving and changing tracks on some of the current non-iPod MP3 players and you'll crash your car. The createive nomad required you to press buttons on both sides of the unit to navigate the tracks.

I guess you havnt shopped for a good headunit recently... you'd be supprised the variety of real car audio solutions there are. most of them cost less than all the iPod jazz.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 My folks just purchased a new HP machine, and I offerred to help them set it up and transfer their data over. It was ridiculously tedious getting everything running. Even trying to install a printer driver for their HP printer (yes, same manufacturer) crashed on a new machine. These type of things happen MUCH less frequently with Mac's, but yet, you're going to pay more for that user experience. To me, it's worth it. And I like having a stylish machine in my home that's not intrusive and noisy.

goes to show how useful a CS degree is...

as far as the sylish, quiet, unobtrusive machine.. try an asus pundit.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 As for people pirating music with iPods... yes MP3 and digital downloads have made music pirating very easy, but this has been going on as long as recordable media has been around. I remember recording tracks off the radio (ugh!) in the 80's to cassette tapes.

maybe you just are not grasping the difference between recording a track to a tape and slanging MP3s over the net. also, most the stuff you recorded off the radio was the "radio mix" which is basically a promo.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 As for the Numark iPod mixer, it really is just a toy.

numark = one big joke.

Hehe, nobody is trying to convert you...

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Originally posted by s3nate I still dont like ipods or macs.

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Originally posted by Nou. Quoting the bible here... "And then God said let there be stupidity, and down from the heavens came the iPod, and along with it every man women bore sweaters upon their chests and dark rimmed glasses upon their eyes and they all began to chant: I AM THE DJ"

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Originally posted by Nou Quoting the bible here... "And then God said let there be stupidity, and down from the heavens came the iPod, and along with it every man women bore sweaters upon their chests and dark rimmed glasses upon their eyes and they all began to chant: I AM THE DJ"

The only thing i can really credit Apple with is Itunes, i hate windows media player and Itunes really was a bit of a saviour.As i was saying about Ipods being flimsy, my ipod's wheel just decided to commit suicide and fly off one day for no apparent reason and the price to fix it would have been more than to buy a new one, whioch i refuse to do because they're so overpriced...

I dont see why everyone has to go and buy ipods. Their are far better digital media players for better value. I cannot remember names but i remember shopping around i found great stuff from good brands aswell like creative and logic.
Macs are ok but we have them at school and they all have the one button mouse. Whos stupid idea was this!? To accept stylish looks over functionality. I hate those damn mouse, especialy when there is something under it and then u cant press the damn button.

Everyone buys iPods because they are:
1. Stylish and "hip". As lame as that sounds, it's a big selling point for anything.
2. They are ridiculously easy to use. The other players such as the Creatives have more features, but when I've looked at them they are always a BITCH to use. And the iPod comes with iTunes, it's a whole system. Getting tracks onto the other players is tedious (aka, my dad wouldn't be able to figure it out).

As for Mac's and 1-button mice... umm, get a two button mouse? Or a five button mouse? Mac OS has supported multi button mice for like 10 years. And now they even sell one (the mighty mouse).

Although YOU may not be confused by two mouse buttons, try sitting an older person not familiar with PC's at a computer and watch how often they hit the wrong one. This is pretty much going away as computer literacy increases, however.

If all you can credit apple with is iTunes, you probably haven't spent a lot of time with OS X. It's a brilliant operating system.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy I dont see why everyone has to go and buy ipods. Their are far better digital media players for better value. I cannot remember names but i remember shopping around i found great stuff from good brands aswell like creative and logic. Macs are ok but we have them at school and they all have the one button mouse. Whos stupid idea was this!? To accept stylish looks over functionality. I hate those damn mouse, especialy when there is something under it and then u cant press the damn button.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 As for Mac's and 1-button mice... umm, get a two button mouse? Or a five button mouse? Mac OS has supported multi button mice for like 10 years. And now they even sell one (the mighty mouse).

This rant was more aimed at my school then Mac. They only have the one button mouses!

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Although YOU may not be confused by two mouse buttons, try sitting an older person not familiar with PC's at a computer and watch how often they hit the wrong one. This is pretty much going away as computer literacy increases, however.

This is soooo true.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 If all you can credit apple with is iTunes, you probably haven't spent a lot of time with OS X. It's a brilliant operating system.

I personally hate iTunes.. but I guess that's a matter of preference. And we can't give Apple all the credit for OS X, it is based on Unix afterall.

My 1st gen iPOD mini was the first mac product I ever purchased, and will probably be my last. At first I was perfectly happy with the mp3 player, it met all my expectations. But after around 5 months of regular use, I get just over 2 hours of life on a full charge. Now I have to pay money, ship my iPOD off to Apple, and wait for a replacement to be shipped back to me. Pretty weak... no more mac for me.

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Sorry, i really should have said from my experience, all i can credit apple with is Itunes, i personally haven't used any Apple operating systems apart from Clarisworks, that scarred me for life...

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Originally posted by Liam And we can't give Apple all the credit for OS X, it is based on Unix afterall.

Well yes and no Sure the underpinnings are Unix, but what makes it great are the user interface and development environment. Where OS X originated from was a company called NeXT, which developed high end Unix workstations in the early-mid 90's running an OS called NeXT step.

That company was founded by noneother than Steve Jobs after he left Apple. Once he rejoined Apple computer he purchased NeXT and voila, you have OS X. OS X has a lot of elements of the original Mac OS rolled into it. The original Mac OS was really inspried (ripped off) from Xerox in the early 80's.

Microsoft copied everything from everyone else

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My 1st gen iPOD mini was the first mac product I ever purchased, and will probably be my last. At first I was perfectly happy with the mp3 player, it met all my expectations. But after around 5 months of regular use, I get just over 2 hours of life on a full charge. Now I have to pay money, ship my iPOD off to Apple, and wait for a replacement to be shipped back to me. Pretty weak... no more mac for me.

The non-replaceable battery thing is pretty lame... You can order a new battery with directions on how to replace it on the net, however. It's actually really easy, you just need to know how to pry the case apart. I replaced a friends for like $18 (his lasted for a couple years, at least). Since you probably have no warranty on it anymore it might be worth it. I used this place called www.batteryship.com.

I don't know about this crap. To me, there's something magical, for lack of another word, about a DJ getting on the decks and putting his craft to work. I guess I'm "old school", but I prefer it over the passing fads. I tried CD's and didn't feel like I had the control that I do with vinyl. Damned if I'm going to jump on the iPod wagon!

And that's the name of *that* tune!

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Except digital technology isn't a "fad". Whether the tracks come on a PC running traktor/FS/SSL, on an iPod, or on a CD isn't the point. The control interfaces are getting better and better, soon there will be a number of Pioneer CDJ-1000-like digital players with moving platters, PC connections, etc. And they will be highly accurate and feature laden.

I say bring it on... as much as I love my vinyl I wouldn't have even a smidget of the tracks I do have using beatport along with it.

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Originally posted by tdurden I don't know about this crap. To me, there's something magical, for lack of another word, about a DJ getting on the decks and putting his craft to work. I guess I'm "old school", but I prefer it over the passing fads. I tried CD's and didn't feel like I had the control that I do with vinyl. Damned if I'm going to jump on the iPod wagon! And that's the name of *that* tune!