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Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l it doesn't surprise me at all china is on her way to become # 1 in 50 yrs or something ...in so many fields now China is already number 1 ....i've read a lot of magazines about this subject and what was scary is that they send a lot of spy all around the world to copy the technics ....a lot of chinese students turn to work for the government and all and my dad he is an engineer in aeronautic for EADS the ones who are building the airbus 380 and others planes told me the chinese accept to buy the planes if they can have some technics and plans .....otherwise they simply refuse all they want is the know how so they can do it again by themselves

Yes, but although their industrial espionage is really functioning well, before they themselves start creating new technologies instead of stealing them from other nations, they can never be #1.

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True but a lot can change in a hundred years so i wouldnt write the chinese off yet

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What makes China below a superpower already . Hell people, China has more people in thier military than the US has in population.
WorldFact Book: US
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I'm pretty sure that if they wanted to take control of much of the world, they wouldnt have a huge problem doing it. They have nuclear devices, they have a 375M+ man-strong army and enough natural resources to cut off everyone and still get by. How is this even a debate when its already a truth?

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I fail to see how China militarily stands a chance, regardless of man-power:

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World Wide Military Expenditures World: $950 billion (2004 est.) United States: $466.0 billion (2004 est.) China: $65 billion (2004 est.)

Source: GlobalSecurity.org

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Heh. Except I think youre forgetting how fucking bloated our government is on spending. Did you know that there is an Army sponsered nascar car and driver? How about the fact that the Army paid programmers to design a total conversion for Unreal Tournement 2003/2004 and then gives it out for free. There are plenty of examples within the government where spending is very very blaoted. Dont be blinded by the fact that the US spends $460B on its troops. Especially when you think about how shitty we are doing in Iraq. I mean seriously... A lot of the troops, personel and even vehicles are underarmored for combat. Does that sound like $460B going to good use? I think the answer to that is obvious.

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Originally posted by IDarkISwordI What makes China below a superpower already . Hell people, China has more people in thier military than the US has in population. WorldFact Book: US WorldFact Book: China I'm pretty sure that if they wanted to take control of much of the world, they wouldnt have a huge problem doing it. They have nuclear devices, they have a 375M+ man-strong army and enough natural resources to cut off everyone and still get by. How is this even a debate when its already a truth? Cheers, Zac

oh a debate? i'd love me some. let's see. not to mention the fact that if China did indeed decide to take on the whorld, they would get crushed in a week. Nuclear devices? o rly? who are they going to use it on? North America, Europe and Israel? Oh, yeah good luck with getting too far with that before China becomes a glass creator whilst the rest don't get too hurt. Their spending is not even near the US's or anything and what you've said about the videogames and shit isn't even 1 percent of the spending. Furthermore, they cannot even dream to compete in military and weapons technology.

Also, a military doesn't make a country a superpower

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Originally posted by IDarkISwordI ...and enough natural resources to cut off everyone and still get by.

Then why are they going outside their own country and gobbling up global resources like a man on fire?
They a) don't have the resources and b) what resources they do have, are woefully underdeveloped, hence the spending spree.

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Let's not forget the most important resource of all: water. What water they have is polluted due to the cities built by rivers. Water is what they don't have and without that you can't do anything.

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The world will become a conglomerate of alliances creating a bi-polar world before another single country will take the place of the United States as the SuperPower. The U.S. has only been in a Unipolar world since 1991 with the fall of the USSR. The question that you should be asking is what countries would China create an alliance with to create a balance of power? Russia? EU? Japan? India?

My opinion is that with the emergence of India that the United States, India, Japan, and Australia will become one side which will make the Russians, Chinease, and EU be forced to ally together. There are already hints of these alliances possibly forming with Chinease and Russian military manuevers and the continued seperation between the EU and America.

The Middle East will still have wars and terrorism but with the United States with a stong base and foothold in Iraq to balance possible interference from the other countries in that region. The Iraq war gave the U.S. a perfect opportunity to create this Middle East strategic advantage to balance power in the area between the EU, Russia, and China.

What will truely test this hypothesis is what happens when China eventually invades Taiwan.

A lot of these predictions sound like the synopsis to poorly written TV dramas.

You must be kidding if you think that the EU will NOT allign itself with the US...oh wait too late it already is

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