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Originally posted by Arbiter The only bad thing about the death penalty is that if you find out the guy was innocent later you can't bring him back to life.

Well yes, and with the stats occrider showed that is simply unacceptable and should not under any circumstances whatsoever be tolerated.

I'm strongly against death penelty for that reason, we can never know if they really are guilty or not. And besides, it's not like its cheaper to execute them than to put them for life in prison, so why not keep them alieve?

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Originally posted by Lepanto Don't exectly see "Hitler" anywhere. This is an old habbit from centuries ago, I guess tied in with the violence in the colonial and early-American periods, this kind of punishment was appropriate.

Habits are made to change. The death penalty has been deleted in the majority of European countries in the 20th century. Things can change.

I also genearlly agree with Neo Phono. However, I would be reluctant to use the death penalty unless the case is really 100% certain. Anything less than that is risking a murder of innocent people.

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 I also genearlly agree with Neo Phono. However, I would be reluctant to use the death penalty unless the case is really 100% certain. Anything less than that is risking a murder of innocent people.

I think using the death penalty poorly (as has been done in the US) is equally as bad as forbidding its use at all (as has been done in the EU).

The death penatly has its purpose, and is an important component of justice when used properly.

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Originally posted by Yoepus I think using the death penalty poorly (as has been done in the US) is equally as bad as forbidding its use at all (as has been done in the EU). The death penatly has its purpose, and is an important component of justice when used properly.

How can you ever know it was truly was used 'properly'? What consititutes 'proper' changes from year to year & from place to place.

I was speaking to a Singaporean guy about this very thing about 2 years ago and he said that over there, they never go to such advanced methods that the US does sometimes with DNA and forensics, that would take years to find out if someone should be exonerated due to insane financial costs, when just killing the person costs less. That's extremely cruel in my book, but if that's how SG & the people of SG's mentality is, I don't think much can change yet. :-(

I personally are against the death penalty no matter how much evidence may point to a person commiting a crime, there's always a small degree of doubt. If you kill the person and it turns out, say, 10 years later, that they really didn't commit the crime, how does that look for the society? It would show that we endorse killing people, which I bet isn't what people want to see the society they live in as...

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 I also genearlly agree with Neo Phono. However, I would be reluctant to use the death penalty unless the case is really 100% certain. Anything less than that is risking a murder of innocent people.

Yes, and it is very rare (if at all) that you can ever be 100 % certain.

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Originally posted by Goashem so the 1000nd execution is suppose to happen this week in the United States, and im just disgusted. how can a government that is so connected to christianity, or use gods teachings as part of their platforms is so pro what is one of the major sins?! government controlled and funded execution just screams hitler for me.

So what do you think are some alternatives to punishing murderers?

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Originally posted by St_Andrew Well yes, and with the stats occrider showed that is simply unacceptable and should not under any circumstances whatsoever be tolerated. I'm strongly against death penelty for that reason, we can never know if they really are guilty or not. And besides, it's not like its cheaper to execute them than to put them for life in prison, so why not keep them alieve?

122/1000 is 12.2 %. That's a high number for people exonerated from death row. It's very scarey as well.

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Originally posted by stevieboy32808 So what do you think are some alternatives to punishing murderers?

Life in a maximum-security prison. How does the EU take care of these people?

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Originally posted by Arbiter The only bad thing about the death penalty is that if you find out the guy was innocent later you can't bring him back to life.

That's the biggest reason people who are against it, are against it.

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Originally posted by d-miurge Habits are made to change. The death penalty has been deleted in the majority of European countries in the 20th century. Things can change.

why are you replying to what i've said? especially since i haven't said that it's not going to change or it should change. i simply showed the reason why it was around and where, in part, it came from.

i do agree that times should change, however things like 10 consequetive life sentences are just as pointless.

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